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It's not that bad. It's a shame when reviewers blister a movie to further themselves.

I don't have the enegry to sign up for some login to a crappy paper especially a Canadian one.

its not getting as many bad reviews as i thought a bay movie would get. thats saying a little at least. but there must not be anything easier for a critic than getting a bay movie. u can tear it shreds without even watching it. the lazy guys they are.

Reviews like this one actually make me want to see it more. To see if it is as bad as people like this say it is.

I find it hard to believe its a Bad movie "galore".

You're actually going to make me sign up to read this. Thank God It's Friday.

that one sentence dave posted pretty much says it all about the content of the review. doesn't take much to see where its going from here.

For me it's never been that his films are unwatchable, they really aren't, well okay Pearl Harbor is as close to unwatchable as you can get but over all they're at least popcorn films. What I think elevates him and his films to supreme cheese is the fact that he seems to think they are high art. I just have a hard time believing he's that deluded that he finds his own work flawless.

Pearl Harbor is unwatchable. Maybe it was the three stars. They had zero chemistry in what was supposed to be a friendship epic.

Bay is an ego filled director. You're saying "Yes Josh. What director isn't?" That is true. Yes. It is. But Bay takes the cake for it.
He thinks hes Hithcock for christsakes.

This critic have something against Bay? Did Bay treat his daughter bad? What happend here? It's just a summer movie!!!!

Bay inspires a lot hate from vertain groups and factions. I've met the man. He is not a terrible guy. Then again I wasn't on set and I have heard some horror stories from friends that have worked on set.

Since the remakes thread has gone to crap I may as well post this here. Saw the Bears. Made me wish for the old one. They took no chances. None. Why do a remake without pushing the envelope? A real disappointment for Linklater.

I just can't get into the whole remake business. Unless the original could use some updating, the old movies are usually better. I sound like that guy or worse my parents and uncles. When it was better back in their day. But it is. The only reason Bad News Bears was made now was for cash. You think Richard Linklater was dying to make this? No way. He needed the dough so he could make his Tapes and Before Sunsets.

Panda, what did you think of Tape or Before Sunset? Like them/not like them?

Bay films make me physically ill. I couldn't sit through Armageddon and Pearl Harbor, walked out of both. Didn't try with Bad Boys 2. I don't mind that they're dumb action movies, but his jittery style makes me seasick.

If you hate his movies so much why you wasting your time and seeing them? You like torturing yourself? No movie is worth feeling ill over. Especially a Bay flick.

There is nothing more tiresome than hearing someone say that critics have something against Michael Bay. That is except for when a critic lazily reviews a Michael Bay movie as if he has something against Michael Bay. I can't stand Bay's work. I have something against Mr. Bay, his movies SUCK!! Every one of them! Until now.
The Island is not nearly as bad as this review states. For what it is The Island has moments of strong action, excellent CGI and a number of welcome nods to classic sci fi. It helps that Scarlett Johannson is so awesome.

Bay's biggest flop? Friday's estimates:

1) CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY - $9 million
2) WEDDING CRASHERS - $7.7 million
3) ISLAND, THE - $4.4 million
4) BAD NEWS BEARS - $4.2 million
5) FANTASTIC FOUR - $3.6 million

In every paper I read yesterday it got three stars. That's all three major NY papers who aren't in the Bay fan club either.

Bay fan club or not, it's one massive flop, at least domestically.

Can you wait til Monday before calling it a massive flop? Maybe another week? Didn't know someone called the "Too Quick to Make Judgements Police".

It is actually a pretty good film. Hard to believe but it is.

Looks like the Flop of the Summer. It's just a matter of time before Dreamworks quietly pulls the plug on Transformers.

Why would I wait until Monday? Bay stated that the movie cost $126 million to make, not counting P&A. So that adds, what, another $40 million? And it will make $14 million, give or take a million, its opening weekend. That is a massive flop and it has nothing to do with how good or bad it is.

They won't pull the p[lug on it. His track record is topo good. Remember he has many hits as a producer too.

Transformers has such a massive following amongst geeks of wide range of ages I doubt very much (and hope not) that Transformers would have the plug pulled. The Island didn't have that prior audience to speak to. In fact I feel sorry for the producers. Producers court the comic con & wizard conventions to update people on all the movie progress updates and the Mob of Geeks can turn ugly if things are delayed, anything changed, etc.

The marketing should be very easy to aim at the 20-40 audience, and people will see it because its machines and Michael Bay is known for action.

There is also a huge opportunity for merchandising on this movie that will hit the younger generation providing all those rights are secured and I am sure they are inmultiple territories already.

Transformers will get made--it's a toy that turns into a cash cow.

I suppose The Island's non-success will just make studio's realise that Sequels and remakes are the way to go. Even if The Island was technically a remake it wasn't ACTUALLY one and wasn't marketed as one.

On the off chance they do decide to make original stuff for blockbusters they must now cast people that $20mil like with Mr & Mrs Smith.

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