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Is the above logo JAWS IV?

Looks like Dreamworks is going out in a blaze of glory.

They need a serious cash infusion. STAT.

David,

your picture isn't finished. You need a caption that has the shark saying: "WHo's your Daddy?" to DreamWorks

Dreamworks must have said or done something that really peaved off Paul Allen. He has the deep pockets and patience to back risky ventures. I vagely recall that Allen was suppose to be able to cash out (5 years?) in the original deal. The fact that he wants out must make DW nervous.

that would be JAWS V old man.

Jeezz, you mean I missed Jaws IV? sigh

They really needed a studio lot. They are just a big production company and no production company can afford 50mill bombs.

Paul Allen should pull his money out of the Portland Trailblazers first (although he's the one who drove that NBA team into the ground...)

forget THE ISLAND - i think infuriating your shareholders by returning 30,000,000+ dvd units over the space of a couple of months is a lot worse than a Bay bellyflop.

I'm clueless. Why would a studio lot have made much of a difference?

JBD, is that 30 million number of returns right? I know the DVD has sold about 35 million units so far, well below projected estimates, but an extra 30 million copies seems amazingly high. I'm not doubting you, I'm just asking for a confirmation.

Studio lots are huge sources of income. They rent studio space, office space, sets, costumes, props, scoring stages, etc. out to productions. Dreamworks has been living off of Universal its entire life.

What DVD are you talking about?

How are the Trail Blazers in the ground? They got the best collection of young talent in the league right now. The Jail Blazer stuff is done.

The DVD in question is "Shrek 2."

This looks like it's becoming inevitable. Sadly, more excellent marketing and distrobution people will loose their jobs. In a market already flooded with MGM and soon to be Miramax people looking for work. Didn't Sumner Redstone say the big Media model wasn't working any more? I would be happier with EA or an outside company buying DW than Uni.

I believe something like 80% of Miramax's staff is simply moving to the Weinstein's new company.

so dreamworks owes its existence and future existence to shrek?

They have really been a waste of talent and money and time since they started. They're television division has been downright awful. It's a miracle they didn't need this money 3 years ago.

I don't really care of the internal politics of the this situation and others like it but if we lose Dreamworks then thats a lot of movies that won't get financed or made.

I hope they don't go under or start cutting back on their already minimal production schedules. A lot of cast and crews will be out of work.

The main problem with Dreamworks imo is that there was no point to it. Any of their movies could have been made anywhere else, it's not like Miramax where they pretty much created a category. Even New Line for a long while was adept at providing films that the majors wouldn't touch. Dreamworks felt like a carbon copy of a major studio from day one.

I always assumed they'd build a lot and make it like one of those classic studios from the Golden Age.

This is what happens when you get in business with Michael Bay.

After the eco-terrorists stopped them from building a studio on the old Hughes property they just sort of gave up on the idea and settle at Universal.

Is Bay being set up as "the man who killed DW"?

All the people before this who made Millions off of Bay aren't complaining.

One movie doesn't sink a studio. The Island isn't Heaven's Gate. Far from it.

Actually it's pretty damn close.

Studios have a bomb this size on an annual basis these days. Heaven's Gate was the equivalent of a movie like Titanic grossing $20 million.

The Island will make most of its money back overseas and on the DVD market. The only people taking shots now are the anti Bay crowd.

I don't think it was the size of the budget of the Bay bomb that worried people. I looks like it was more of a case of none of them saw it coming. When you're predicting 20+ million opening weekend, which granted is already low for what's supposed to be a summer blockbuster and you get 12, I think that shakes the cofidence in the yet to be released. Especially after what happened with the Shrek 2 DVD sales. So while they may not have been dragged under by The Island, but they may fear it could happen so it's just easier to shore everything up by dragging another studio down with them.

The Island will make it all back overseas. Foreign people love dumb action movies.

But the movie business is different that how it was when Heaven's Gate was out. As Jeff said studios suffer movies like The Island every year now. Besides, I think xXx2 will go down as the biggest flop of this year, considering The Island has a much better looking outlook for DVD.

Besides, Dreamworks has been coasting along for a few years now. It seems that only their animated films and Meet The Fockers were successes. Infact those are the only Dreamworks movies I can think of of the last few years.

And somebody up there said that Dreamworks' movies could've been made anywhere else. And that's true. In fact, a lot of them were. Spielberg's are basically Universal, right?

Seriously, I can't really think of anything substantial that Dreamworks has done. They've been quiet on the awards circuit too, i believe.

"They've been quiet on the awards circuit too, i believe."

Say what? How about three consecutive Best Picture Oscars: AMERICAN BEAUTY, GLADIATOR and A BEAUTIFUL MIND. (And they came within a whisker of four in a row with SAVING PRIVATE RYAN.)

kamikaze - being australian is not enough of an excuse for such clueless comments. Brotherhood served yo ass. ownd.

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