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June 20, 2006

What We Really Want?

Would this (or a much better variation on this) be the Miami Vice trailer you would prefer?

Do you think anyone would be scared off by a little trip down memory lane?

Posted by poland at June 20, 2006 01:40 AM

Comments

That's not the real trailer?

Gong Li is looking pretty hot in this... might make it worth sitting through a movie starring Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx.

Posted by: EDouglas [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 05:05 AM

This thing perfectly shows the difference between what Mann is doing and what anyone else would have done.

He is not doing Miami Vice the TV show and that is why this is the one summer movie I want to see.

Posted by: Aamir [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 06:17 AM

Posted by: mutinyco [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 07:15 AM

Love the new trailer. This is one of maybe three movies I have to see this summer.

Posted by: Sandy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 08:32 AM

I kept hoping they'd throw in the original theme music...just to see how (wrong) it would play. Dunno...a little nostalgia could go a long way (the key being "little"). Besides, I'm sick of the Jay-Z/Linkin Park mashup.

Posted by: palmtree [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 09:13 AM

A clever composer could easily work in a few bars of the theme as a bone to the shows fans. I do not argue that it needs to be there, but done properly it should not hurt.

What I love about the trailer is how much from the show they kept.

Crockett's speech patterns, the cigarette boats, a few shots with bright colors, the looking down at the dashboard while driving shots...

I think people remember this show incorrectly. It had much more grit and edge to it than people remember and was about more than the pastel suits.

I even like the Jay-Z Linkin Park thing. The show was known for playing the hip music of the time and this fits the bill.

Even if it isn't a huge hit, I think it will be a quality film and a lot of people who are laughing will be surprised.

Posted by: Nicol D [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 09:55 AM

"Miami Vice" was indeed much darker and grittier than a lot of people remember. I remember watching an episode in which underworld types were actually trying to find a serial killer before the cops did -- and it suddenly hit me: "Holy smokes! They're doing a riff on Fritz Lang!" And, sure enough, it did turn out to be a homage to "M." That same season, if I recall, Mann did a variation of his own "Manhunter," with Crockett getting steadily more unbalanced while trying to think like an increasingly more violent home invader. At the end of the episode, when he tells a potential victim "I'm a cop," he sounds more like he's trying to convince himself. I know Don Johnson has turned into a punchline, but he was DAMN good in that show.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 10:30 AM

Joe,

Yes, I think it is a shame Johnson sort of became a parody. I don't think it was entirely his own fault.

He lent a weight and gravitas to the show that he never really gets credited with. People forget he won awards for his acting on the show.

I hope Farrel can fill the deck shoes.

My only regret about the movie is that Olmos is not Castillo. He still looks great and lent a real weight to the proceedings.

Posted by: Nicol D [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 11:16 AM

btw, Olmos is great in Battlestar Galactica. If you haven't seen it, it's another great example of a re-invention that distances itself from the original to create something far superior. He makes a great couple with Mary McDonnell, the best female President on TV.

Posted by: palmtree [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 11:22 AM

The fact that I despise that poser Linkin Park song is one reason I've disliked this campaign so far.

Posted by: Wrecktum [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 11:24 AM

I haven't seen it but I will say that I always thought that a really good rendition by a top orchestra of the original Battlestar Theme sounded every bit as glorious as Williams Star Wars theme.

Glad Olmos has found success. He is also a good director.

Posted by: Nicol D [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 11:25 AM

I was surprised to see the Linkin Park/Jay-Z 'Numb' track edited so well in the latest trailer, so I'm cool with it just fine.

Reminds me of the Batman theme lacking in Begins. Sure, they could've thrown it in there, but it wasn't a greater or lesser movie because they kept it out.

Posted by: Tofu [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 12:01 PM

If they're going to do a "trip down memory lane" trailer, at least use the theme and not Phil Collins. That said, I'll echo what's above: title and character names aside, this isn't your typical tv-show-turned-movie attempt.

It's probably as much a remake as Mann's "Heat" being a redo of his TV movie "L.A. Takedown." - meaning not much.

No harking back to the original is needed, or wanted I think. I've seen the trailer multiple times in which the crowd will be really into it, and then start giggling a little when it says "Miami Vice."

Posted by: Josh Massey [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 12:06 PM

During his time on "Miami Vice," Edward James Olmos was, quite simply, the baddest ass on prime time TV. He even scared me, even though I'd interviewed him on a few occasions and found him to be a gracious and friendly gentleman in real life. Whenever Castillo would glower at anyone and say "Get... out... of... my... office," I always expected the object of his wrath would respond: "Uh, OK. No, don't worry about the door, I'll just jump out the window here..."

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 02:23 PM

Watching the clip mutinyco linked to makes me think that Foxx will be a great Tubbs. I could easily envision him saying those lines...anyhow, like I've said before, I have no history with this show. I just want to see a kickass movie.

Posted by: Aladdin Sane [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 04:53 PM

When I saw that homemade trailer a month ago, using the very moody "In The Air Tonight" music that was so identified with show, I thought "Yes! That is exactly what they should have used."

While Jan Hammer's theme would have screamed 80's, the slow build on the Collins track is still effective and rather timeless. Its dark, soulful sound was closer to the spirit of the show and I would suspect the new film.

And what's up with the new Castillo, unless he is supposed to be Cuban why the change away from him being Hispanic? If Mann is running scarred from the old show by not using any of the music, nothing says 70's & 80's cop show louder than having the cliched heavy-set black boss.

Posted by: RoyBatty [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 20, 2006 08:10 PM

You know what I'm looking the most forward to out of everything related to Miami Vice? Some more fantastic Dion Beebe night-time cinematography.

His work on Collateral was some of the greatest ever (criminally robbed of an Oscar nod, let alone the win) and from the looks of it, he appears to be doing some again on this one. So, yay for that.

Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 21, 2006 05:32 AM

Agreed. The Phantom of the Opera's nom should have gone to Collateral although I'm not mad The Aviator won...

...and I don't know what to think about the fact that Klaus Badelt is composing Miami Vice...

Posted by: JBM... [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 21, 2006 07:05 AM

Out of the actual nominees I think I would've prefered Bruno Debonet (er, the spelling isn't in my brain right now) for A Very Long Engagement but The Aviator was very deserving.

Dion's non-nomination hurts even more since he WON for uninspired and blah work on Memoirs of a Geisha.

I sorta wanna watch Collateral now, but I have to watch Kagemusha before taking it back.

Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 21, 2006 08:01 AM

Memoirs of a Geisha was a crappy movie, but the cinematography in it, along with the production design and Gong Li, were very, very strong and the only bright spots.

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 21, 2006 10:39 AM

The costumes and sets were pretty (if historically innacurate) but the cinematography was nothing special. I can't remember one single memorable thing about it. Unlike Beebe's work on Collateral, In The Cut, Praise, Chicago and Holy Smoke!. In The Cut, now there's a movie that wouldn't have been half as watchable if it weren't for the astonishing cinematography.

Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 01:06 AM

KCamel, you and I (and the Academy, and the ASC, and the BAFTAs) will have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 11:51 AM

:P

As long as we agree Collateral's was better then we're as right as rain.

Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2006 01:24 AM

Everything about Collateral was better. (Although to be fair, that movie was started by a different DP, Paul Cameron.)

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2006 01:56 AM

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