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September 27, 2006
Harvey's New Scam
With Bobby resting uncomfortably on life support, Harvey needs a brand new bag.
And that bag is... Sienna Miller.
The sad part of the Harvey ramp-up is that it has become so ham fisted that this kind of laughable nonsense now leaks out of the same handful of walking orifices every time. That group now includes Tom O'Neill, Jeffrey Wells, and the late charging (in this case) Roger Friedman, who should be doing a story on Sienna as an Oscar frontrunner about.... now.
Have you noticed that Harvey's other game of the year - the record breaking standing ovation - is now happening at every festival where American journalists don't seem to be in attendance at the screening. Clerks II at Cannes… Bobby at Venice…
The battle royale of this year’s Oscar season is the former Miramaxers at The Dart Group (aka The Dartees) vs. Harvey. The problem for Harvey is that he doesn’t have any real ammunition. And The Dartees have a significant percentage of ALL the other movies in the race this year, plus the resources of all of the studios that they are working for. But people still fear that Harvey will find a way to pull out the miracle.
Sienna Miller may be a great actress… I’ve had no indication of that yet. But there are women who have been put in one crappy category for years and then turned out to be really fine actresses. (See: Jessica Lange.) But Ms. Miller is best known for being cuckolded by the nanny with Jude Law and being a tabloid piece of ass. And in the Edie Sedgwick movie, she is playing… a skinny blonde NY downtown piece of ass, who does, of course, get to die tragically.
Last year, Harvey rode Felicity Huffman to a nomination. So without a Best Picture candidate, it’s all on Sienna. But there is a giant difference. First, this is actually a very competitive year for Best Actress, even in the Golden Globes, where most of the major candidates for Oscar (Ms. Streep and Ms. Bening excepted) are all in the Drama category. That “opens up” on Globes slot, but Penelope Cruz is ready to take that slot and there are, as always, likely to be a new candidate or two from the few films that still haven’t been seen. Anyone really want to bet on Sienna Miller beating out Judi Dench, Kate Winslet, Helen Mirren or Penelope Cruz? So is she fighting for the 5 slot against Maria Bello (twice Globe nominated) or Nicole Kidman or Cate Blanchett in The Good German or Harvey's own darkest horse, Renee Zellweger in Miss Potter or even, in an insane move that would bring a very hip party to the Globes, Kirstin Dunst in Marie Antoinette?
Is that one “n” or two, Ms. Miller?
Second, Felicity Huffman is a very well-known, well-established actress in Los Angeles/New York. She is not a London blondie. And unless Ms. Miller is sporting a penis underneath her Factory garb... well, nothing baits awards like a stunt, though a fine performance must follow, as a rule.
But God bless Harvey Weinstein for fighting the good fight. It's going to be a tough fight this year, even if he has the Butt Monkeys on his side. Zhang in there, baby.
Posted by poland at September 27, 2006 11:05 AM
Comments
I'm with you all the way except the notion that Maria Bello is somehow in the hunt for a best Actres nomination.
Posted by: Kristopher Tapley
at September 27, 2006 11:44 AM
Who are the Butt Monkeys? What does Zhang Ziyi have to do with any of this?
Did Clerks 2 really get a standing ovation? Crazy.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 11:50 AM
Harvey Weinstein is to Oscars as Karl Rove is to elections.
Discuss.
Posted by: Eric
at September 27, 2006 12:26 PM
David... have you seen the movie?
If not, this is all hot air. Who would have thought Hillary Swank (of Karate Kid fame) would have won Best Actress this long before Boys Don't Cry was seen?
If Miller really does turn in an amazing performance, I could easily see her in the race.
Posted by: Melquiades
at September 27, 2006 12:28 PM
And all this, by the way, from the guy who predicted Michael Lonsdale would be nominated for Munich right up to the day of the nominations.
Posted by: Melquiades
at September 27, 2006 12:31 PM
And why'd Harvey's head of PR leave after less than a year? mc, walking butt orifice monkeys.
Posted by: T.H.Ung
at September 27, 2006 02:06 PM
You realize, Mel, how Hilary Swank or Catalina Sandino Moreno or Felicity Huffman are not analagous, don't you?
Being an unknown quantity (see: Rinko Kikuchi or Amy Adams) giving a great performance is a lot easier than being tabloid fodder (see: Penelope Cruz or Kim Basinger in Door In The Floor) in a great performance trying to overcome tabloid expectations.
Getting into a dick measuring contest on my analysis prowess is silly. You forgot to bring up Phantom. But you also forgot to pick up all the movies I have been right on when others wrote them off.
I don't claim perfection. But going 9 of 10 on Actor/Sppt Actor with Jake G. as my #6 in the one slot I missed "up to the last minute"... seems like you are working awfully hard to spin me in a misleading way.
Still, the real story here is when the monkeys start selling something all at once. I don't really care whether she gets in or not. The point is that this kind of groupthink moment when the studio still isn't screening the film should be a red flag for anyone who doesn't have a vested interest.
Posted by: David Poland
at September 27, 2006 03:05 PM
I actually really like Emilio Estevez as an actor, but I wonder how the hell anybody could have expected much out of the director of "Wisdom" and "Men at Work?"
Posted by: Josh Massey
at September 27, 2006 03:10 PM
Emilio directed Men at Work? Oddly enough, that makes me respect him just a little bit more.
Posted by: Eric
at September 27, 2006 03:19 PM
Men at Work is awesome. Long live Keith David. And David Keith for that matter.
Posted by: Kristopher Tapley
at September 27, 2006 03:23 PM
Who the hell is Rinko Kikuchi?
DP, who are some of those names that you were right on when others wrote them off? And I ask not to try and get you to flame off on me but because I don't remember any right now, your missteps being more notorious.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 03:41 PM
Rinko Kikuchi gives the greatest performance out of an already stellar ensemble in "Babel."
Dave was incessant about "Capote" last year for so long it seemed unhealthy. Another one that pops into mind is Samantha Morton in "In America." I'm sure there are others, but then we all have our high points and low points in the Oscar prediction game.
Not to answer FOR the guy, but since you asked so nicely and free of sarcastic intent, how could I refuse?
Posted by: Kristopher Tapley
at September 27, 2006 03:51 PM
Memo from Weistein PR Dept...
"You provide the story, we'll provide the Oscar war."
Posted by: PetalumaFilms
at September 27, 2006 03:54 PM
I'm really glad Bobby's on life support, because I can see lots of dollars freed up to put out a fat DVD. Really get behind the archival footage in the movie, get a good commentary track and hire a good B roll editor (hopefully they shot lots of it) to put together a juicy behind the scenes. Top drawer artwork, menus, packaging and qc'ing too, please.
Posted by: T.H.Ung
at September 27, 2006 03:56 PM
Yes, thanks Kris, that's what I was looking for. If David is going to get all defensive when people incessantly bring up Phantom of the Opera and Michel Piccoli then SOMEBODY has to tell the other side of the DP prediction story. And Dave probably wouldn't.
Yeah, there's nothing that gets my blood pumping like some hot quality control action.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 04:02 PM
Maybe you prefer a good compression.
Posted by: T.H.Ung
at September 27, 2006 04:11 PM
Actually, I like a good 3:2 pulldown, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 04:23 PM
I mean Lonsdale, not Piccoli. Sorry.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 04:34 PM
Anyone around here think the new Deja Vu trailer gives away too much of the plot? I loved the teaser trailer and how it suggested that the dja vu gimmick was something unexplainable. Now, the trailer informs us that some scientists were "able to fold time." I kinda liked thinking it was just part of the atmosphere.
On the other hand I think this could be the Tony Scott movie that actually works. I'm talking about his new City of God-influenced visual style. I think Bruckheimer is the right producer to reign in his batshit visual gymnastics. I'm still on the fence if releasing an R-rated thriller at Thanksgiving is wise. Ransom was the last major R-rated thriller I can think of really having some legs. Then again, it had the "family values" angle going for it. Americans love them some vigilante thrillers. More and more it seems either family-friendly kids' movies and Oscar-serious adult movies are the only things that connect during the Thanksgiving/Christmas season. There's no room for anything in the middle. (See the sad results of the criminally underrated The Ice Harvest from last year.)
Posted by: Jimmy the Gent
at September 27, 2006 04:38 PM
Has Deja Vu been rated already? Looks laughably bad to me. I think Tony Scott gets worse with every movie. Domino, IMO, is one of the worst jobs behind the camera in recent memory. Bruckheimer does not seem like the right guy to settle him down.
Posted by: Stella's Boy
at September 27, 2006 05:07 PM
Bruckheimer, for all his faults, does know how to deliver to an audience and is probably the only producer to get Tony Scott to back off of his self-indulgences and make something a little more narratively based. It worked on Crimson Tide and Enemy of the State.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 05:17 PM
But those are 11 and 8 years old. After Spy Game, Man on Fire and Domino, I think Scott will struggle reverting back to those days. I hope you're right though. I like the cast in Deja Vu and maybe the Bruck is just the man to chill Tony out.
Posted by: Stella's Boy
at September 27, 2006 05:39 PM
I actually think Spy Game was one of the best films of 2001.
Posted by: Kristopher Tapley
at September 27, 2006 05:47 PM
Did you not see many movies that year? Seriously though, it's mildly entertaining but far from great and Scott's directing is fairly obnoxious.
Posted by: Stella's Boy
at September 27, 2006 05:53 PM
I saw a lot of movies, yeah. And I loved Spy Game, yeah. It's the only one of Scott's frenetic outings that I do like, actually.
Posted by: Kristopher Tapley
at September 27, 2006 06:13 PM
Spy Game has the distinction of being both frenetic and deeply boring. But it's better than Man on Fire, which is basically offensive.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 27, 2006 06:17 PM
I did not like Spy Game upon my first viewing. It just seemed too frenetic without actually being exciting. For some reason, I saw it a second time, and I wound up liking it SO much more. I'm not entirely sure why; I think the second time through, I just had a better idea of how to flow with the movie's rhythm or something.
Posted by: Sam
at September 27, 2006 06:34 PM
I don't see why being tabloid fodder makes her less likely to land a nomination *IF* the work is excellent. People love a comeback story.
I asked before... have you seen the movie?
As for better analogies than Swank or Moreno... what about Kim Basinger for LA Confidential, or Halle Berry for Monster's Ball? Salma Hayek, Queen Latifah? Greg Kinnear?
All of those people were best known for things other than their acting and strong performances put them in the Oscar race.
Also, I'm not a Wells fan, but I don't see him as parroting Harvey Weinstein's line. The crap he spews is very much a product of his own twisted mind. If he's on the Miller bandwagon, it's because he thinks she did a great job.
Posted by: Melquiades
at September 27, 2006 06:36 PM
Since Hickenlooper almost passed out doing blow twice during the shoot and the film is produced by Cassian Elwes' WIFE how can it not suck?
(and for THUNG and the other Welles Dwellers- no I never sent young Jeff an email- I made my usual genius post and it made him BAN me, delete me, and then still write an insane rant against me on the site. He doesn't like being excluded from screenings but he excludes those that point out his worthlessness. Go figure)
I am Spam Dooley and I Get Around.
Posted by: SpamDooley
at September 27, 2006 07:12 PM
I've said this on another board, but it bears repeating here: the twelve of us who saw CASANOVA already know Miller is a fine actress.
Posted by: Cadavra
at September 27, 2006 09:32 PM
Put down the bottle Spam before I light up and burn this place to the ground. Is Hickenlooper still partying too hard with Mechner? I'll swap you 2 George's for 2 Polands.
Hats off to Scissorhands for spreading that BS about a 6min standing ovation for Clerks deuce. Even some of the crew bought that lie hook line.... I agree with some of what Dave's on about but the tabloid line I don't think holds true. tabloid stars have an advantage for generating oscar buzz.. it's a no brainer.
Or did I simply not understand one of his (....) (......) styled paragraphs?
Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor
at September 27, 2006 10:35 PM
"or even, in an insane move that would bring a very hip party to the Globes, Kirstin Dunst in Marie Antoinette?"
Why is that an insane move? Have you seen Marie? If so, what did you think? I dont't remember you saying anything about it before, would love to hear what you thought. I remember you writing about the reaction though. But someone like Kirsten Dunst seems right up their alley to nominate.
In terms of the Globes, my predix atm would be.
Drama:
Penelope Cruz
Judi Dench
Helen Mirren
Gretchen Mol
Kate Winslet
Gretchen Mol is my "Holy crap, the Globes actually watch the movies!" choice, like last year when they went overboard with actual critically acclaimed movies (Violence, Match Point and Constant Gardener). I'm sure it won't happen, but it's fun to speculate.
Comedy/Musical:
Annette Bening
Anne Hathaway
Jennifer Hudson
Beyonce Knowles
Meryl Streep
There could very well be a Zellweger/Zeta Jones situation with Jennifer. Judges as lead by Globes but put in supporting for Oscar. And, well, this category is pretty lacklustre this year so they may be forced to nominate 2 ladies from the same movie twice (Knowles/Hudson and Streep/Hathaway).
...unless Volver goes comedy and not drama? But I'm sure they're gonna maximise Cruz's Oscar chances by slotting her in drama. But that could end disastrously, see - Joan Allen for The Upside of Anger.
But on to Sienna. I actually had her down as a prediction back in March. It seemed like it would bare fruit, and while I'm still very much anticipating the movie I don't see it getting awards play anymore.
The reason I am looking forward to it (A LOT) is because I love that era. The whole Andy Warhol, New York in the 60s/70s with the drugs and the weirdness and The Velvet Underground are the greatest band ever, right?!
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0
at September 28, 2006 12:45 AM
If they watched The Notorious Bettie Page they would have gotten a nice glimpse of Gretchen Mol nude, but they would have also seen a performance that was very, very one-note in a shallow and mediocre movie.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 28, 2006 01:02 AM
The script for this was so atrocious that I have a hard time believing all this Oscar talk. But Poland is right on about Weinstein being able to shove a nomination down the Academy's throat. Look at Transamerica -- he has an amazing ability to market this stuff to the middle-aged Academy crowd.
Posted by: fnt
at September 28, 2006 01:31 AM
Is it just me or is it going to be harder for the Hollywood Foreign Press to categorize movies this year? Little Children, The Queen and Marie Antoinette all have comedic elements in them, though they normally would be typified as dramas.
Posted by: EDouglas
at September 28, 2006 03:31 AM
"I've said this on another board, but it bears repeating here: the twelve of us who saw CASANOVA already know Miller is a fine actress."
Here, here... and the six of us who saw Alfie saw her steal the movie from under Jude Law (no pun intended)
Posted by: EDouglas
at September 28, 2006 03:32 AM
It's official, Volver is Spain's candidate for FLF... so I guess we can say it's a shoe-in for a nomination, the other 70 or so movies will have to fight for the 4 remaining spots! ;o) Think this could help nab Penelope Cruz a best-actress nom?
And in spite of some rather frequent funny moments, this film is definitely a drama!!!
I wish some other film had been nominated (although I loved Volver!)... I'd like for people in the US to discover other great Spanish films!!! Anyhow, I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more about Almodovar in the months to come...
Posted by: crazycris
at September 28, 2006 05:25 AM
I agree on Sienna and Alfie. But then, all the women stole Jude's thunder there. Jane Krakowski and Susan Sarandon included.
Douglas, The Queen 100% be drama and I think we can be confident that Little Children will be drama too. But, Marie Antoinette looks like it could feasibly be on the edge, much like last year's Pride & Prejudice, which ended up going into Musical/Comedy.
Jeff, from what I've read while most people aren't that crash hot on the movie, they all single out Mol as being great.
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0
at September 28, 2006 05:31 AM
"Hats off to Scissorhands for spreading that BS about a 6min standing ovation for Clerks deuce."
JBD-The Clerks 2 standing O is on video. You can see it at iTunes.
Posted by: storymark
at September 28, 2006 07:41 AM
Marie Antoinette is an okay film. Great sets and costumes, awesome soundtrack, fair performances, lukewarm directing. I have a feeling every lazy film critic will compare Marie Antoinette with Paris Hilton, which is an unfair shake to the late Queen.
It won't do squat for box office.
Posted by: Edward Havens
at September 28, 2006 08:10 AM
LAH To Welles-
You ask for us to work on our expression, yet you tell us that you banned Mr. Dooley for pointing out that your crying about publicists underlied a false sense of entitlement on your part (we all saw the post before you removed it). So do you want opinion or asskissing? One wonders.
You asked us to work on our composition- so here goes-
Jeffy Boy Oh Jeffy Boy
Why do you sound so full of noise?
You spread the hate and then ask us to wait
Is that cool Jeffy Boy?
As you walk to the film
In the big empty room
Do you get tired and bummed
That the studios don't want your gloom?
Here you slag of Jackson the rich
When he doesn't care if you bitch
Is there a reason you do this, oye?
I ask Jeffy Boy.
I am LASTACTIONHERO and I test screen tonight in LaVerne.
Posted by: LastActionHero
at September 28, 2006 08:57 AM
Really... I don't need messages to Jeffrey in here any more than I need to discuss any other pimple on the ass of the industry.
I understand wanting to rage at being banned - assuming he banned you. But please keep it to a dull roar.
Thanks.
Posted by: David Poland
at September 28, 2006 02:51 PM
Camel, you can take Bening out of the "comedy" category. SCISSORS is a drama through-and-through.
Posted by: Cadavra
at September 28, 2006 03:39 PM
Whoa. The Best Actress in a Drama category just keeps getting fuller and fuller. They could pull six nominations out of their hat this year like they did with Actor/Comedy last year.
I wonder what will become of Best Actress in a Musical or Comedy. You have the two Dreamgirls ladies (who, really, could become one if the HFPA decide that Hudson is supporting) and the two Prada wearers. Could SPC actually submit Volver as a comedy? Could Bettie Page get a push as a comedy? Same for Marie Antoinette? Or some obscure movie? Is Emma Thompson in Stranger than Fiction enough to actually be Lead? Hmmm...
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0
at September 28, 2006 11:29 PM
Oscar nomination for Sienna Miller ??? NO WAY
I'm sorry but I still remember Sienna Miller, after last year's Academy Awards, trying to have public sex with Sean Penn at the bar of the Chateau Marmont Hotel on Sunset Strip, in full view of hundreds of Hollywood producers, directors, and other moguls.
In "Factory Girl" Sienna Miller attempts to portray Edie Sedgwick, who was a real life muse of PITTSBURGH's Andy Warhol.
After Sienna Miller's RECENT crude comments and bizarre DIVA Temper Tantrum behavior in PITTSBURGH during the filming of "The Mysteries of Pittsburgh", do you really think that the hundreds of producers, directors, actors and writers in Hollywood that were either born in PITTSBURGH or attended College in PITTSBURGH would ever vote for the idiot Sienna Miller ???
Harvey & Bob Weinstein, save your money instead of wasting it on a Sienna Miller campaign.
Posted by: JET
at November 10, 2006 11:07 PM
Okay, so this is a person with an axe to grind.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at November 10, 2006 11:51 PM
Why an axe to grind? Why can't it just be an opinion motivated by... how the person feels?
I understand how that bullshit gets foisted on me, but why must everyone we disagree with be accused of having some mysterious, inappropriate motive?
Posted by: David Poland
at November 11, 2006 12:30 AM
Because they posted the exact same posting on two different posts, one of which was a month old...this ain't rocket science, DP. I don't even disagree with this person since I haven't seen the movie or care about it in any way.
Why must every post I make be considered to be 'bullshit'?
Posted by: jeffmcm
at November 11, 2006 12:48 AM
I don't post often enough to suggest every post you put up is bullshit, Mc.
The comment was more general than you, though you do have this habit.
You haven't noticed that people's motives are always suspect when their opinion is unpopular with some people?
Posted by: David Poland
at November 11, 2006 01:17 AM
I'm a skeptic by nature, DP.
And besides, are you not questioning my motives here as well? The loop could keep spiraling in forever.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at November 11, 2006 01:27 AM
Your third sentence is too vague for me to be able to comment on.
Also, I have not been posting nearly as much in the last couple of weeks. Time for a new thing to complaint about me.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at November 11, 2006 01:35 AM
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