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September 08, 2007
Friday Estimates by Klady - 9/7

Posted by poland at September 8, 2007 03:14 PM
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I saw Yuma, liked it. Good character development, suspenseful. The audience - older mature. 1/2 full theatre at 4:45.
Hope it has legs. Needs to be seen. This is the season for the adults to come out and support movies.
Posted by: Chicago48
at September 8, 2007 03:42 PM
Loved both Yuma and Shoot 'Em Up. Concerned that I'd never heard of Shoot 'Em Up until about two days ago. A movie this good should be better marketed.
Posted by: Jerry Colvin
at September 8, 2007 05:49 PM
Go Yuma. Great movie. Hope it makes a bundle.
Posted by: bipedalist
at September 8, 2007 05:58 PM
Shoot 'em Up coming to Thailand on the 20th. I'll be the first in line at the cinema!!!
Sadly, no release date yet for 3:10 to Yuma.
Posted by: ployp
at September 8, 2007 07:37 PM
Boy, I had a great time at Shoot 'Em Up, but I guess it's running into the same type of problem as Grindhouse.
I wonder if Turturro will be able to get more bookings for Romance & Cigarettes, as it's apparently drawing a decent crowd to the Film Forum.
Posted by: Rob
at September 8, 2007 07:51 PM
Guess I'm in the minority.... I was bored by 3:10 TO YUMA. It did nothing for me; felt forced, artificial, and unsurprising in every way. In fact, all it did was make me appreciate OPEN RANGE more.
Posted by: Telemachos
at September 8, 2007 11:02 PM
No I was bored for the most part with Yuma also. Love westerns but thought Yuma was pretty crapy, esp the last 30 minutes or so, short of the star power.
Directing was devoid of any style or originality. An episode of Deadwood, which I don't even like, feels more real and original than this movie.
Posted by: CharlieDontSurf
at September 8, 2007 11:55 PM
Open Range was a good movie too, required patience. But all westerns IMO require patience to watch bec it's a lot of character development and motivation - why people do what they do.
Does anyone know if there are FEWER theatre outlets in the U.S. than ever before? Seems there's a lot of product out there but fewer theatres to put them in. Just wondering.
Posted by: Chicago48
at September 9, 2007 05:08 AM
As someone who's looking in, Chicago48, I think that the problem is that studios want to open their movies on as many screens as possible, leaving no room for smaller films in the cinema. This topic was discussed a while back on this blog.
Posted by: ployp
at September 9, 2007 05:42 AM
Too bad about SHOOT 'EM UP. I expect YUMA to have decent legs, since it'll appeal to adults more than SHOOT.
A movie like SHOOT lives or dies by it's opening weekend. It seems to be more of a movie geek movie and may tick off the typical action movie fans.
"Hatchet" was crap. It should have gone DTV. It'll actually play better on video after a few beers and the right group of friends.
Posted by: tjfar67
at September 9, 2007 06:21 AM
it seemed like the majority of Shoot Em Up's marketing was based online. I saw banner ads and rollover clips on a majority of film websites, and the tv ads were sparse.
I love Clive Owen, but can we add him to the "Can't open a movie no matter how hard the Studios push him on people" list. That list right now includes
Josh Lucas
Jude Law
Colin Farrell
There are more, but it's early and i'm blanking.
Posted by: anghus
at September 9, 2007 06:38 AM
You know, I have to wonder about the Colin Farrell thing. Certainly he didn't "open" Alexander or even do much for Miami Vice, but back in 2003 he was front and center in several hits. The Recruit did $50 million or so; Pacino helped, but Pacino solo (or even Pacino with other young stars) isn't guaranteed box office. S.W.A.T made like $120 mil, didn't it? Farrell was top-billed in that and we've seen that Sam Jackson isn't always solid for box-office. Even Daredevil did $100 million; no one really liked it, granted, but Farrell was the best thing about it.
I'm not saying he's hugely popular or anything, but I feel like people act like he's one of those "stars" who's never actually been in a hit, and that's not really true. Ask the Dust and The New World and A Home at the End of the World were never going to be big hits; the only truly mass-market movie he's done since 2003 was Miami Vice -- which, granted, was a major box-office disappointment. But no one's acting like Jamie Foxx is a completely fabricated star, even though he's had a roughly similar box-office track record.
Jude Law and Josh Lucas and Clive Owen (and Ewan McGregor, for that matter), I totally agree -- even though Law, Owen, and McGregor are three of my favorite actors around (Law has been stuck in handsome-cad parts lately but think of him circa A.I./Road to Perdition/Cold Mountain -- really varied, excellent work).
Posted by: jesse
at September 9, 2007 09:15 AM
SHoot em up was ok, entertaining but not much for my cerebral cortex.
There are only a few men and women who can open a movie at all. But we've had that debate and list several times on this blog, and yes Clive goes into the list "can't" and Russell Crowe, post telephone assault, is crossing over into that list too.
Posted by: Lota
at September 9, 2007 11:02 AM
I'm not too sure about agreeing that the B/O records of Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx are all that similar.
The most recent $100M+ grosser for CF is SWAT in 2003. The only others on his resume are Daredevil, (Credit to Ben Affleck), and Minority Report, (Credit to Tom Cruise) I think however that CF has deliberately stayed away from what could be termed obvious B/O spectaculars. His choices have not been the commercially driven bonanzas, but more 'artistic' leaning.
Jamie Foxx is just coming off of his biggest hit, Dreamgirls, and I do believe he was a factor in getting it there. His other efforts have at least gotten to at least 60M with his bomb being Stealth, and he had third billing, (or is it fourth after the jet). He is making smart choices for his career, not too artsy, yet with enough commercial meat that could keep him a viable box office draw, as well as a critical success.
Posted by: bulldog68
at September 9, 2007 11:02 AM
Ewan McGregor, THANK YOU.
i knew i was missing one.
Posted by: anghus
at September 9, 2007 05:44 PM
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