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October 09, 2007

For The Record

Since Nikki Finke hasn't bothered to report it or run it, someone should probably point out that Warner Bros denied the report Nikki made on her gossip blog outright to CBS News, stating, "Mr Robinov never made that statement nor is it his philosophy."

Personally, I don't really believe that the studio doesn't feel burned by five box office dissapointments in one year with star actresses in the primary lead or that they will not cut back severely on the number of films made - especially expensive ones - with actresses in the lead... as every other studio in town has done for years.

But at the very least, an unequivocal statement by the studio should be given as much space as gossip run by Nikki.

Posted by poland at October 9, 2007 04:34 PM

Comments

Well sure, what's WB going to say? "Yeah that's right. No more lady movies."

Anyway, whatever...back to business as usual...


Posted by: Andrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 05:28 PM

And that, Andrew, is why gossip is so dangerous. True or not, it puts the accused on the defensive and makes any denial suspect.

Kinda sucks... unless it's not about you.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 05:48 PM

its funny when these stories creep out of the industry sites and hit the mainstream.

i heard at least a half dozen people talking about it today, including my wife who said 'did you hear what that guy at Warner Bros. said'

she read it on Perez Hilton.

Posted by: anghus [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 06:32 PM

I'm of the opinion that even if it's true, it's not actually big news --a studio releasing two films starring 40-ish female movie stars in the same quarter is the exception, not the rule--but I haven't seen WB's rebuttal anywhere. A Google news search turned up nothing. Do you have a link, David?

Posted by: karina [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 06:51 PM

It was on the CBS Early Show this morning.

http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/09/home/main3347604.shtml

You can watch the video on the right of the page.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 09:34 PM

DP - Nikki reported that 3 producers told her Robinov's new policy. You said Amy Pascal made the same decision a few years ago, but didn't go public with it, and then you pointed out the success of Pascal's decision, saying that "she had two great box office years since." You said Robinov's decision was "hardly a shocker" and "should-never-have-been-said-out-loud." You also mentioned a history of this decision in Hollywood.

As I said before, I was responding to the issue because your statements backed it up as a de facto policy by Pascal and probably by Robinov, also. I trusted your take on it, and if that makes me irresponsible, then consider the source.

I'm not defending NF, but I'm not understanding your remarks. You seem to be saying the whole thing is fabricated, that Robinov was slandered. I would agree with you that this is quite malicious if it is a complete fabrication. So do you now have evidence that Robinov never said this? You're calling her an irresponsible liar - which seems pretty malicious to me. If you have proof that she is, spill those beans. I'm sure there's a lot of women in Hollywood that would like to hear of it.

Yet via your CBS link, you're quoted as saying "The fact that he may have said it out loud to an agent was probably indiscreet and stupid..." So once again, you don't seem to be denying it was said at all, just saying it was indiscreet.

And if you are right, and it was an indiscretion, then OF COURSE Robinov is going to say he never said it. OF COURSE the PR reps are going to clean it up - that's what they get paid for. And OF COURSE Allred is going to cover her bases and say "if that's what he said." You weren't born yesterday, DP - you know that's the way it works. It sounds like the issue now stands at an unprovable stalemate. (at least the PR reps hope so, whether it is true or not.) Maybe Robinov will quickly put a nice fat film into production with a female lead, to prove his virtue (or further cover his ass).

Either way, please don't put me as monkey in the middle between you and NF. I wanted to talk about issues regarding women in Hollywood today, not get drawn into a cat fight. I hope you'd feel the same.

Posted by: seenmyverite? [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 10:33 PM

sorry - i should have posted the above on the other blog comment.

Posted by: seenmyverite? [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 9, 2007 10:35 PM

Just a minor point in the counter-story:

"Silk Spectre leads Alan Moore's 'Watchmen.'"

Uhhh, no she doesn't, not unless it's been radically rewritten (and Zack Snyder claims he's being faithful). Silk Spectre actually has less influence on the events of the story than any of the major male heroes. Her most significant act is to break up with Dr. Manhattan early on, causing him to leave Earth; after that, she's little more than a love interest for Dan.

Posted by: LYT [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2007 12:28 AM

I didn't put you in the middle, seenmy... you did.

And you did defend Nikki. And I have no idea what Robinov actually said, which is the glory of editing. Nor does Nikki. Nor do you. What we do know is that there is a bigger issue than Jeff Robinov, but Nikki prefers throwing shit to actually engaging ideas.

My rules are simple... gossip is gossip and news is news. If Nikki - or anyone else - wanted to report something, there is a story. But it's not a blind inflammatory quote. Get it?

And mind you, none of this kept me from taking a shot at Variety for being too easy on Robinov in their story tonight and showing Nikki and the web and the LA Weekly disrespect - and letting the traditional alt media off the hook - by not even naming her. Bad choices.

If you are going to write a story, do the story. If you want to chase gossip, don't do what Nikki did and don't respond to it as softly as Variety did. Neither serves readers.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2007 12:46 AM


David, David, David ...

You just dug yourself a hole you're not going to be able to rationalize your way out of dude. Oh, David ... so sad.

YES David…
we CAN only accuse others of what we are guilty of ourselves.

And YES, it IS true!
I was "attacking" you.

( - just like I accused you of doing ... when I accused YOU of attacking Nikki.)

and YOU?
YOU are OBSESSED with NIKKI ... (you silly boy!)

Just like you accused me of ... when you decided that I must be obsessed with you.)

OUCH!
You ACT like a girl Dave,
but you're way too fat for my taste...

(In fact - both of you are.)

Cause I only obsess on healthy young women ... not orange tanned, over the hill, Robert Evan sunglass wearing “entertainment rehashing gossipers” like you.

(Because "gossiping" is what you accused Nikki of right???)

And you can only accuse others of what you're guilty of...

So let her go dude, let her go! You can’t have her. It's so sad - (and you can never be like her). But I’m sure she will always miss you...

and weep for you.

Her one, true, obsesser...

(just think back to everything you have accused her of Dave. That's what is hiding ... deep inside of you.)

Posted by: whatnokiss [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2007 12:59 PM

Whoa...you are freaking CREEPY, whatnokiss...

Posted by: Noah [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2007 01:21 PM

Wow... that was completely incoherent and insane.

You're right. We all do expose ourselves in the breadth and width of these exchanges.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 10, 2007 01:22 PM

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