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May 16, 2008

BYOB - Friday

Can we please keep the personal blog politics to a dull roar? It's more than a little boring.

How will Caspian open? Who is interested in seeing it?

Anyone still revving their Cannes engines?

Posted by poland at May 16, 2008 03:15 PM

Comments

I don't have any interest in seeing Prince Caspian. The first flick was mildly diverting, but I'm not in the core audience of people who read the books (which is substantial).

I have no idea how it will open. People in general seemed to like the movie. I would be really surprised if it opened bigger than the first. There's a lot of graduations happening this weekend.

Posted by: mysteryperfecta [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 03:32 PM

This weekend could serve as Exhibit A as to why I consider the summer the most boring time of the year for movies.

Sure, not to studio bean counters or to prognosticators like Poland who like to play "How high can it go?"

But there's not a single other major film being released this weekend. Just one, big kiddie-family picture. If you're the type who doesn't care about animated films or fantastical, clean-cut adventure, there's nothing to see, nothing to talk about.

I know it's common logic to write off February, April and September as unimportant and filled with dumped throwaway pictures, but I'd gladly take a spring weekend of B-horror, second-string star vehicles, erotic thrillers, and cop sagas right about now. Shit, there were weekends last month where there were two or three movies I wanted to see. Since I don't really like cartoons, I'm not 12, and I don't have a brood of ill-behaved children, I'll probably finding myself sitting out most of the big "events" of the next three months.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 03:54 PM

Narnia bored me. Just too much STUFF that I had seen too often and too recently to even feign interest.

The Happening looks like he has wasted money at another studio. What's that three in a row now? Disney, WB and now Fox. I know that The Village Idiots made money... but was he not escorted from the lot?

Posted by: The Pope [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 03:57 PM

Night will do his next bomb with Sony, the one after with Uni and the follow-up (his attempted "comeback") with Paramount. He will then graduate to being a director for hire to a second-tier MGM thriller, and then do a Saw rip-off for Lionsgate, and finally finish his ignoble career with a line of moderately successful DTV prequels to Unbreakable.

Posted by: Wrecktum [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 04:13 PM

No interest in "Caspian." May check out "Reprise."

And anybody know if "Trumbo," "Gonzo," or "Lou Reed's Berlin" are docs worth seeing in the theater this summer or will be perfectly fine in my Netflix queue?

Posted by: SJRubinstein [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 04:14 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after seeing the new red-band trailer of Tropic Thunder, isn't it obvious they're making fun of Heath Ledger? That is, Downey Jr's character is from Australia and is described as a method actor, and even in the new trailer, there's a shot of a nude Downey Jr. giving the finger to what looks to be a paparazzi camera. Well, I remember a picture of Ledger doing exactly the same thing in the very posture Downey does in the trailer to the paparazzi in Australia or some resort town; not nude, however. To put a point on it, I wonder if Stiller and company now feel a little awkward given Ledger's death...I mean, in the trailer, they're also obviously making fun of Eddie Murphy, and I believe they're obviously making fun of Ledger, too. Yes, fair game perhaps -- Ledger passed away after the film was shot -- but just a little, uh, awkward.

Movie looks absolutely hilarious, though. Stiller may be forgotten for the crap he's been in lately as well.

Posted by: Mr. Gittes [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 04:38 PM

"Can we please keep the personal blog politics to a dull roar? It's more than a little boring."

says the man with four posts on the front page of his blog dedicated to politics. i don't disagree. it's why i've stopped looking in those posts. but, jeez, pot meet kettle.

Posted by: hendhogan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 04:41 PM

I hated the first Narnia movie, so no desire to see this one. Fortunately instead I can see Redbelt, or Standard Operating Procedure, or The Visitor, or Son of Rambow, or they're screening Vertigo tomorrow at the Egyptian, and a weird Italian thriller called Death Laid an Egg at the Silent Theater. There's another movie showing there tomorrow called The Boost that might be up some peoples' alleys.

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 04:44 PM

"How will Caspian open? Who is interested in seeing it?"

It will open like a wound that never heals...

So, nah, I just don't even have a sparkle of interest in this one. Prince Caspian himself looks like a guest actor playing a prince on one of ABC's old TGIF sitcoms, in a dream sequence where the unpopular girl is fantasizing about being swept off her feet by the cutest guy in the school. Bleccch.

Posted by: Hallick [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:06 PM

"There's another movie showing there tomorrow called The Boost that might be up some peoples' alleys."

Oh, that wacky Jeff.

Hey, "The Boost" isn't a silent movie.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:23 PM

I know.
Is that some of the hilarious 'dumb guy schtick' I've heard so much talk about lately?

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:29 PM

i honestly don't know how anyone could get Heath Ledger out of Tropic Thunder, I thought it was pretty clearly a Russell Crowe inspired character.

Posted by: movielocke [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:37 PM

No, bitch, I just assumed they showed silent movies at the fucking silent movie theater.

I've never been there, so this was news to me.

But bonus passive-aggressive bitch points for hinting that "some people here" would like a completely random and middling 20-year-old movie that happens to be about coke. Very witty.

BYOB. More like BRING YOUR OWN BITCH.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:40 PM

Personal politics, hend.

Namecalling? Grandstanding? Get it?

But thanks for the intentional misread.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:41 PM

And did I miss my endless discussion about this weekend's box office that so thrills me, Lex? Just wondering. Maybe I'm sleep-blogging.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:42 PM

I went to the red band on your suggestion, Gittes. Didn't laugh once.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:44 PM

I could see Ledger, Locke... but Crowe makes more sense... except that he doesn't seem to be an angry jackass.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:45 PM

Really enjoyed Son of Rambow -- reminded me of the melancholy comedies of eccentricity that Bill Forsyth used to give us. But thinking of those movies made me think: What the hell ever happned to Bill Forsyth's career? Geez. Forsyth got great performances from Burt Reynolds in Breaking In and Christine Lahti in Housekeeping. And I love Comfort and Joy and Local Hero. And, really, Being Human wasn't that awful, was it?

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:45 PM

I was talking about the summer season, which this weekend is indicative of, David.

Seems there were some weeks in April where you were pretty dismissive about entire weeks chockfull of new releases, eager to get to the good ol' summertime. I didn't really say you were champing at the bit to discuss this particular week's seemingly obvious results.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:47 PM

Lex, it was 50/50 with me that you would have any idea what The Boost was at all.
But if you don't like the subtle mockery, I can just come to your next open mike and throw bottles at you in person.

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:55 PM

Also: I liked How the Garcia Girls Spent Their Summer. But... well, as I wrote in my review today: It "premiered at the 2005 Sundance Film Festival... but only now is getting limited theatrical release. That says a lot — none of it good — about today's indie-movie marketplace."

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 05:58 PM

in anticipation of sunday mornings 'indy 4' screening (and because it's ninty degrees where i live in the valley) i'm doing nothing but sitting in the pool reading and catching up on dvds...oh, and monitoring the mcmahon/lex war......
btw--- i, too, was bored to death w/'caspian'....

Posted by: scooterzz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 06:38 PM

I laughed out loud at the mention of The Boost, personally.

Of course Lex didn't know sound films played at that venue. Like he would go anywhere near a place called The Silent Movie Theatre, unless he was tricked into seeing Broken Blossoms for the sex and drugs.

Posted by: lazarus [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 06:38 PM

Did MCN scrap the box office showdown where the gurus guess the weekend outcome? I rather liked that feature and the Prince Caspian predictions would be interesting.

Posted by: Jonj [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 07:05 PM

"Personal politics, hend.

Namecalling? Grandstanding? Get it?

But thanks for the intentional misread."

not intentional. your definition of personal poliitics isn't the definition of personal politics. but, hey, thanks for lashing out.

Posted by: hendhogan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 07:37 PM

'lashing out' is what he does......you should know that by now.....

Posted by: scooterzz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 08:16 PM

don't make it right. especially if he's calling for civility.

Posted by: hendhogan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 08:21 PM

To salvage something out of an unfortunate detour regarding "The Boost."

Harold Becker always seemed a somewhat interesting director to me. Pretty hard to pin down or classify... I guess many would say he's a journeyman or worse, but he's had a tight little filmography for the most part.

Strong start with two excellent Wambaugh adaptations, the dirge-like "Onion Field" and the EXTREMELY UNDERRATED AND AWESOME "Black Marble," which all Harry Dean Stanton fans ought to look into. (Robert Foxworth should've been a bigger film star."

Then "Taps" -- awesome. "Vision Quest" -- underrated. "Sea of Love."

I guess after that, and maybe because of that, he mostly has done potboilers since -- "Mercury Rising," "Malice," "Domestic Disturbance" and the like.

I don't know, his movies always have this kind of old-school, strangely warm styless-ness that kind of works well with his all-business approach. Again, probably not a "sexy" director to film geeks and students, but I think someone who was fairly underrated.

That said, yeah, "The Boost" isn't particularly distinguished, though Woods is electric as usual in it.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 08:21 PM

Actually, I rather liked Malice. Love the idea of a movie doing a switcheroo like that at midpoint. And BTW, Lex: Bebe Neuwirth OWNS your ass.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 08:49 PM

Oh, I don't get me wrong; "Malice" is extremely entertaining. I tend to like "potboilers," so I wasn't really dismissing it.

Truth told, I actually sort of liked "Domestic Disturbance," but I'm sure I'm in a distinct minority on that opinion. I wouldn't argue there's anything especially distinguished about it, but as unpretentious thrillers go, it was acceptable in a "Kiss the Girls" kinda way.

I wouldn't agree that Bebe Neuwirth owns much of anything, but when I saw "Summer of Sam," I was fairly surprised that she was wheeling out the body that she had.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 08:56 PM

Bebe Neuwirth in Malice: "I don't how to respond to that. Oh, wait, I know: Fuck you!"

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 09:11 PM

Aww, Bebe. She's awesome.

On the Tropic Thunder bit I've read the inspiration was indeed Russell Crowe, which kind of annoys me considering Crowe has given more great performances than the three leads of Tropic Thunder combined.

Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:27 PM

Kam: Out of the Blue is the movie, I think, that is the new version of Bad Blood.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:35 PM

kam -- great perfs or not, he really is an arrogant asshole..... i've been there when he's treated assistants and publicists like doormats....
leger, on the other hand, was always a gent (at least, whenever i talked with him)....
just a personal observation....

Posted by: scooterzz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:37 PM

Still, I betcha movie critics will draw the comparison between Downey Jr's character and Heath Ledger, and probably emphasize it - even if the filmmakers aren't trying to make fun of Heath in the first place.

Poland, you didn't laugh? Not once? I'm looking forward to it...especially for Tom Cruise.

Posted by: Mr. Gittes [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:43 PM

Out of the Blue has similarities with Bad Blood, but it's actually based on a shooting rampage in New Zealand a few years ago, whereas Bad Blood's story was based on a shooting spree/manhunt that happened in the early 1940s.

Posted by: Hallick [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:52 PM

Neuwirth has owned my ass for years. Last year she came back to CHICAGO for four months, this time playing Roxie. She was so fucking brilliant and inventive in the "other" part that it almost seemed like a new show. I'll never forgive Harvey for giving her role as Velma in the film version to the more modestly talented Zeta-Jones.

Posted by: Cadavra [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 10:53 PM

Hallick: Thanks for the info. Jack Thompson, I think, gave the performance of his career in Bad Blood.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2008 11:12 PM

I finally saw Redbelt. Mamet really did make a movie about honour and tradition in a time without both. No wonder it tanked. It was more confusing to people than the Matrix Trilogy. It's also a tremendous movie that I cannot wait to own on DVD.

Posted by: IOIOIOI [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 12:18 AM

"personal blog politics"

i hadn't even realized that i was misquoted.

so please define what I actually said for me, hend. enlighten me as to how it translates to me making entries about politics.

you too, scoot!

i need some schoolin'!!!

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 01:16 AM

see think of Downey Jr. role from the public's pov rather than the pov of the well informed cineaste. Russell Crowe is the big oscar/awards winning australian actor that's gotten in a lot of trouble for being an angry jerk. Ledger is a former teeny bopper dreamboat who had one big role (in a gay movie) during his adult career, but he wasn't an awards winner, or considered a jerk.

looking at the early reports, Narnia looks like it'll pull in 50-60 and Iron Man a third 30+ weekend which may indicate it has the legs to get past 300, impressive how well it is holding up, Speed is puttering along in a go-cart in the box office race. Overall I think Narnia will perform like Azkaban did in comparison to Chamber of Secrets.

Posted by: movielocke [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 01:44 AM

dp--- ok, i'll attempt some "schoolin'".....
a few weeks ago when i jokenly referred to one of your posts as 'gay', you called me a 'homophobe' (probably THE most offensive epithet you could direct at me)...i let it slide because:
a--it's your house and i'm just passing through...and
b--at that moment, i lost all respect for anything you'd ever written or will ever write... i also understand why the very mention of your name to almost any studio publicist in town elicits the word "asshole" (this really is true)...
then, about a week ago, when it i pointed out to your little pal (io) something factual about the box-office failure of 'speed racer' , i was called a 'hater'.....
my (long ago forgotten) point is that you really should check yourself before dissing folk for 'name calling'........
jus' sayin'......

Posted by: scooterzz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 02:03 AM

'out of the blue' is a grim recreation of the aramoana massacre in 1990. A nutjob named david gray went on a shooting spree in a lovely little settlement near dunedin on the south island, killing 13 people, including several kids. needless to say, it shocked our tiny country to its core. t

he film is actually very good, definately worth a look, with good performances including karl urban as the cop in charge.

Posted by: leahnz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 04:11 AM

Yeah, Joe, "Being Human" WAS pretty dismal. But I totally agree with you about missing quirky Scottish humanist Forsyth.
I was a huge fan of "Gregory's Girl" (a damn near perfect movie) "Local Hero," "That Sinking Feeling," "C&J," "Breaking In" and "Housekeeping" with the divine Lahti's career performance.
If I'm not mistaken, Forsyth's last film was his merely OK "GG" sequel that played Toronto (1999?), but never opened in the states.
Lex is right about Becker (and "Visionquest") being underrated. I've always loved "VQ" with Matt Modine (speaking of "Whatever happened to?"), Michael Schoeffling (now working as a carpenter somewhere in PA last I heard) and the !!SMOKING HOT!! Linda Fiorentino in, I believe, her screen debut.
"Sea of Love," "Taps" and yes, even "Malice" are other Becker faves. (His early Wambaugh adaptations really didn't do it for me, though, and I'm old enough to remember seeing them both during their initial '79-'80 runs.)
"Caspian" is perfectly OK, but a bit of a slog, no?
"Narnia 1" wore its length a lot more comfortably.
I sorely missed Tilda Swinton's delicious White Witch, altho Sergio Castellitto earns a few stray giggles for merrily channeling Rossano Brazzi in "The Christmas That Almost Wasn't."

Posted by: movieman [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 05:14 AM

Downey's character is clearly based off Ledger, and any hocking to say it was on Crowe is just last minute damage control. The Paparazzi stuff is modeled after Ledger's numerous houndings by those jackals, Ledger was always one to change his look like Downey's character, he is from Australia, and the dead giveaway?

Downey opens the movie playing a gay priest, who then makes out with Tobey Maguire.

Pretty simple connection.

Oh, and Prince Caspian? No interest after being bored to death by the first. The fifth book was nice. Wake me up when they get over to that one. PC $18m opening day? Uh-ohhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Tofu [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 09:22 AM

So then, they're basing Downey on Linus Roache?

Darring!

Posted by: Ben C [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 09:59 AM

So then, Downey's based on Linus Roache?

Daring!

Posted by: Ben C [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 10:00 AM

oops. thought I could correct that in one post.

Posted by: Ben C [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 10:01 AM

Skip "Standard Operating Procedure" -- 1 week and out in New Jersey thanks to combination name-checking/Oscar-whoring in the print ads.

I'm gonna have to go into Manhattan to see "Redbelt" at a decent showtime. Most New Jersey megaplexes downgraded it to nights only in its 2nd week.

Wouldn't be surprised if some megaplexes picked up "Son of Rambow" over Memorial Day just to have something on screen.

Posted by: Chucky in Jersey [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 10:16 AM

Joe, Hallick and Kam - I'm not sure if you're aware, but OUT OF THE BLUE is being released on DVD June 10. Thanks for the Netflix tip. It's now sitting at the top of my queue.

Posted by: bmcintire [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 10:53 AM

IOI,

Now that you've seen RedBelt, tell me, if you had the chance wouldn't you have casted Chiwetel over Terry Howard for Iron Man??

I don't dislike Iron Man but Terry Howard sucked in that movie, & Chiwetel would've rocked that part so hard, they'd be shooting the War Machine spinoffs right now.

Posted by: THX5334 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 11:17 AM

Given the ass-ownings Poland's been handing out since late last night on this blog, I'd be inclined to hazard as guess he's either in a REALLY bad mood or an awesome bender. It's awesome... Dude is laying laws left and right.

Posted by: LexG [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2008 09:40 PM

Joe, I was going to tell you Out of the Blue wasn't a remake of Bad Blood but Hallick and Leah already told you as much. I also haven't read anything about a remake of Thompson's flick. Leah might know, considering the original was actually a NZ flick.

Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2008 02:03 AM

i've not heard a thing, but i hope no-one is stupid enough to remake 'bad blood'. i suspect joe is thinking of 'out of the blue', just got his killing sprees messed up, but i'll ask around

Posted by: leahnz [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2008 03:24 AM

Dave Poland is already sharpening his knives for Tropic Thunder. Not that I'm really surprised.

Posted by: Aladdin Sane [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2008 02:32 PM

Is Chucky telling us to skip Standard Operating Procedure - one of the absolute best movies of the year - because it got dropped from some New Jersey multiplex and because he disapproves of its ad campaigns?

What is this insane logic?

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2008 06:42 PM

it didn't say "personal blog politics" before. it said "personal politics." i wouldn't have made the comment if it was the original iteration.

Posted by: hendhogan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2008 03:27 PM

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