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September 16, 2008
Oh My God... Father
The Godfather Blu-ray just landed on my doorstep.
It took as long as unwrapping the package to start watching.
Gordon Willis' blacks.
The light in Bonasera's eye... slowly pulling back... his black jacket just barely clear against the black behind him... the shadowy figures of Sonny and Hagen... the whisper in the ear... the reverse and the make-up that looks as real as ever... the cat... the f-ing cat...
The thing about Blu-ray is not just the amazing density of image, so much closer to film than anything else, but it's the size of the sets we watch on now, in conjunction with the density of image, that makes even a 36-year-old film seem like you are seeing it again for the first time.
Would seeing a great film for the 20th time on a big screen with a pristine print be better? Sure. But that isn't a real option, is it? Instead, I get to see something I love, looking more like the way I first saw it on a screen (better, probably, than the beat up print I first encountered, as the movie was 8 years old by the time I was 16), with all my familiarity now drawing my eye to more than the focus of the frames I know so well..
It’s not only the amazing image… it’s also the fifth little girl following Johnny Fontane into the wedding… it’s the little old lady behind Michael as he tells Kay the story of “an offer he couldn’t refuse”… it’s Vito Scotti and Morgana King reacting as the old guy sings the raunchy Italian song…
Last year, the most significant event in Blu-ray was the five Kubrick films. This year, no question, it is The Godfather Trilogy (followed by Disney’s Sleeping Beauty, their first Disney Classics release, that is the first step towards the single most significant indicator of whether Blu-ray will survive next year, when a bunch of Classics finally land in Blu).
I remember making the leap to CDs. It was Sting’s Dream of the Blue Turtles. The clarity of CD was just that much greater than the sound of a tape in my Walkman. I quickly added to the collection with great internationally produced recording of everyone from Ella Fitzgerald to Bird to The Police.
Sony is still slowing this down – and possibly, killing it over time – by not delivering a cheaper Blu-ray DVD player. The $400 price point is just too high, even for people who are buying HDTVs. But the leap of quality is undeniable. It doesn’t matter for every film. But the great ones… the ones that combine story and image beautifully… wow.
The oranges on Jack Woltz’s table… oooh!
Posted by dpoland at September 16, 2008 01:03 PM
Comments
A $5 Rashomon Restored ticket to anyone who can say where The Godfather Restored is going to be playing in L.A.
Posted by: T. Holly
at September 16, 2008 03:21 PM
Last night I watched BLACK SNAKE MOAN on Blu-ray.
It made me shoot a White-ray.
That was a great joke.
Posted by: LexG
at September 16, 2008 03:22 PM
Stupid, it was a Sting-ray.
Posted by: T. Holly
at September 16, 2008 03:31 PM
For anyone that's considering it, the pre-order price for this set at Amazon just dropped today to $61.95. That's what finally tipped me over the edge.
Posted by: Eric
at September 16, 2008 04:02 PM
looking forward to the GODFATHER blue ray, but have you taken a look at the restored HOW THE WEST WAS WON on blue ray? it's a wonder.
Posted by: seattlemoviegoer
at September 16, 2008 04:31 PM
Arclight
Friday, September 19
Godfather 11:30am, 7:30pm
Godfather Part II 3:20pm, 11:20pm
Saturday, September 20
Godfather 11:30am, 3:30pm, 7:30pm, 11:20pm
Sunday, September 21, 2008
Godfather Part II 11am, 3:10pm, 7:20pm, 11:25pm
with additional staggered showtimes during week.
Posted by: moviecityindie
at September 16, 2008 04:36 PM
That's still a lot of money, but it's half off. I wonder if David would buy it. Hat off to Ray Pride for reading the Arclight newsletter.
Posted by: T. Holly
at September 16, 2008 05:10 PM
Why buy something when you can get it for free?
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 16, 2008 05:13 PM
When Paramount sent out a note asking people to request it, I responded that if they were unable to accomodate me, I would be pre-buying it on Amazon so I could get it ASAP... so yes, I would have bought it.
As someone who really never got into buying DVDs, I have been gobsmacked by how many Blu-rays and, still, HDs, I have bought. (I was at Virgin Records in NY this last weekend, looking for HD bargains... movies I would only buy at a discount, but would like to have. The salesman very quizically asked why I would bother buying HDs. I explained that I own 2 machines and at $10 and under, it is still enough of a bargain over Blu-ray that something like Transformers is worth buying in an HD format.)
That said, the vast majority of my now-oversized collection is kindly given to me by studios.
I would probably buy about 2 Blu-rays a week if left to my own devices.
Posted by: David Poland
at September 16, 2008 05:18 PM
The rumour is that there will be a few stores selling $150 Blu-ray players on black friday.
Can I also get a ruling on 720p vs 1080i vs 1080p. I just got a new 37 inch HDMI tv in my bedroom but I went with the 720p to save a few hundred bucks ($750 vs $1100). When I finally hook up a blu-ray will I see a big difference? I'm having a hard time getting a straight answer. Dave, are you 1080p?
Posted by: MDOC
at September 16, 2008 05:22 PM
"Would seeing a great film for the 20th time on a big screen with a pristine print be better? Sure. But that isn't a real option, is it?"
It is, and it was.
Posted by: frankbooth
at September 16, 2008 05:31 PM
yes, there is a clear difference between 720 and 1080... if you have a blu-ray... not so much on hd cable or satellite, in my experience. And the bigger the screen, the bigger the difference.
Both of my HDTVs (58"/42") are Panasonic 1080i.
And per the previous question by T Holly and the suggestion by Seattlemoviegoer, I just bought How The West Was Won, Patton, The Proposition, Speed Racer, and There Will Be Blood from Amazon.
Posted by: David Poland
at September 16, 2008 05:35 PM
I think this all just terrible.
Posted by: T. Holly
at September 16, 2008 05:41 PM
I liked DP's $ting story just for the visual of him singing along to "Moon Over Bourbon Street" while getting ready for a date on Friday night, but unfortunately the analogy with music doesn't really hold up.
Cassettes were not an improvement on vinyl from a sound perspective; it was actually a downgrade in that department. So it wasn't difficult to be impressed by CDs when they appeared. It also was a completely new format--new look, new mode of delivery (digital over analog), etc. Made it seem like you were getting something TOTALLY new.
In home video we went from essentially nothing to VHS, which was godawful. DVDs were an enormous improvement, comparable to CD over audio cassette. But because Blu-Ray looks the same as DVD from a physical standpoint, and because the upgrade in quality is going from something very good to something great, instead of from crap to very good, I don't know that the average person is gonna get on board. It just doesn't blow me away like DVDs did when I first saw them.
I plan on buying a Blu-Ray player somewhere down the line, but because owning an HDTV is a prerequisite, it makes the change much more difficult. When CDs came out, you didn't need to buy a whole new amplifier and speakers to use a CD player, as long as you had an AUX jack in the back of your stereo.
Posted by: lazarus
at September 16, 2008 05:50 PM
And, most people can't afford a big enough 1080i TV in order to see the most dramatic difference in picture quality (like me). Which is why I'll spend $28 to see Godfather 1 & 2 at the Arclight instead of $1500 for all the hardware to be able to watch the Bluray discs.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at September 16, 2008 05:55 PM
But Laz, vinyl was already in decline when CD happened. The Walkman had made the portability of tape a key to life. If you bought vinyl, you surely made tapes from it. And there, CD had a huge edge in quality.
And unless you were an audiophile, the arguments of vinyl over CDs were meaningless... just as the argument that cable or satellite delivered HD is inferior to Blu-ray... a fact that is even more apparent to the average owner of both formats... but then again, the expense of a blu-ray player is so great that it automatically puts owners in that audiophile class. People just don't think any DVD player is worth $400.
And I don't discount J-Mc's complaint at all. Even the added cost of having HD on cable or satellite - at least $120 a year - keep some people from considering it.
I say that Sony has 2 years to get a $150 quality Blu-ray into the market or the format - however much I love it - will be dead, run over to cable/satellite delivery that is not as good, but it still a big step over non-HD.
Posted by: David Poland
at September 16, 2008 06:23 PM
Just purchased a pristine 24 inch monitor, and plan to buy a Blu-Ray PC drive in December with the release of The Dark Knight. Seeing as how some drives can be purchased on newegg.com for $100 even now, there really isn't any excuses left for myself.
Posted by: Tofu
at September 16, 2008 06:27 PM
DVD is the new VHS. this means Blu-ray is the new laserdisc.
The main reason (I think) DVD took off was that it combined the high-end qualities of laserdiscs with the affordability of VHS. The fact is most purchasers of DVDs don't delve into al the bells and whistles like the laserdisc geeks.
Until Wal-Mart starts a Blu-ray cut-out rack, it'll remain a (decidedly great) niche market.
Posted by: Jimmy the Gent
at September 16, 2008 07:09 PM
I haven't bought a Blu-Ray player yet...but I plan on getting one sooner or later. I don't plan on re-buying my DVD collection, but I'll definitely double dip for a few favourites - like Godfather.
Posted by: Aladdin Sane
at September 16, 2008 11:13 PM
Really? Dream of the Blue Turtles?
Christ I hate Sting.
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0
at September 17, 2008 02:11 AM
On the contrary, discovering that David likes Sting, is only a year older than me, and the correctness in his decision to support Obama over McCain has made me finally decide that I actually kinda like the guy after all... took me a decade of reading to decide this.
Posted by: Jerry Colvin
at September 17, 2008 06:25 AM
C'mon, Sting was huge at the time. Now if he had anything post Soul Cages that might be something to snicker about.
My first CD was Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet so I can certainly not throw any stones.
Posted by: hcat
at September 17, 2008 11:05 AM
"DVD is the new VHS. this means Blu-ray is the new laserdisc."
Blu's market penetration is already many times the reach of laserdisc in it's lifespan. In any case, we owe a greater debt to laserdisc than many realise - the format introduced us to new ways to watch movies in the home (5.1 Dolby sound, director commentaries, correct aspect ratios) that we take for granted now.
Posted by: Dr Wally
at September 17, 2008 12:12 PM
The first album I remember receiving was Belinda Carlisle's Runaway Horses. "Dancing with you in the summer rain..." bliss.
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0
at September 17, 2008 10:45 PM
wow, the first album i ever bought with my own saved-up allowance was 'fleetwood mac' by fleetwood mac, way back in the olden days (the 1970's). i remember going to the record store with my older cousin as if it were 30 years ago. it was such a big deal. (my cuz got 'black sabbath' and 'dressed to kill', he thought he was so hard-core. i think he was like 14 or something)
Posted by: leahnz
at September 18, 2008 03:34 AM
Blu's market penetration is already many times the reach of laserdisc in it's lifespan. In any case, we owe a greater debt to laserdisc than many realise - the format introduced us to new ways to watch movies in the home (5.1 Dolby sound, director commentaries, correct aspect ratios) that we take for granted now.
Allow me to be all anal-retentive for a moment and point out that OAR widescreen video was introduced on CED, not laserdisc.
Posted by: Bob Violence
at September 18, 2008 04:38 AM
My first CD was Bon Jovi, but the first saved my allowence bought the album purchase was Men at Work's Cargo. I was flipping through the channels one time and landed on the episode of Scrubs that had Colin Hay singing 'overkill' and a strange wave of nostalgia swept over me as I was able to recall every word.
Posted by: hcat
at September 18, 2008 08:31 AM
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