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I'd like to throw my name into the ring as a possible replacement.

My first artistic choice will be that the role of Edward will henceforth be portrayed by Evan Rachel Wood.

Summit, hit me up, son.

In the real world though, LEXI OWNAGE ALEXANDER THE BEST FEMALE DIRECTOR OF ALL TIME AND DIRECTOR OF THE BEST MOVIE OF 2008 HANDS-DOWN is the only logical candidate.

I've always thought that continuity in creative personnel between sequels can be sensed by audiences in some vague way, even before walking into the theater, even if they've never heard of Jon Turteltaub.

Also Kim Peirce could do a good job.

And Sofia would FUCKING ROCK THAT SHIT.

I would have no clue it was Jon Turteltaub if they didn't say in the trailers that it was a Jon Turteltaub movie, and then seeing those trailers a million times.

I like a lot of Turtletaub's work. Nothing great, but solid fun for the most part.

dp, what makes you think bigelow would touch 'twilight 2: dusk redux' or whatever the hell it's called with a ten foot pole? unless they want to go hard-out

Leah: $$$, plus Bigelow hasn't had a hit movie since, uh, Point Break?

Oh come on...he only directed the best olympic bobsledding movie of all time, give the man some respect.

i don't kath's in it for the $, jeff, i think she's in it to kick all kinds of ass. she should come here and make her next flick, we'd see her right

'i don't THINK kath's in it for the $...'

if i ever post a comment without leaving an arbitrary word out, it'll be a certifiable miracle

I think it's sexist that only a female has a shot at directing New Moon.

I don't get why it's a big deal that Hardwicke's been dumped. Lots of sequels aren't directed by the person who directed the original; and that goes double (triple, quadruple, etc.) for series. The Bonds always have different directors, as have the Star Treks, the Potters, and so on. This wasn't a case where the director was responsible for the creative vision of adapting the books a la Peter Jackson and LOTR. The sequel will rise or fall on its own. Who directs it won't be a factor; it won't be why people see it or not.

a la peter j, PHILIPPA and FRAN re: lotr, blackcloud; since we're talking chicks and flicks, how about giving them credit where credit is due. adapting lotr wasn't a one man show

Fair point, Leah, but we're talking directors here, right? Apparently Summit thinks the important woman on the show is the screenwriter. There's your credit where it's due. Or at least where they think it's due. I suppose that makes Twilight like the Potter flicks in that regard, since on those the creative continuity was in having the same screenwriter. Thank goodness Kloves is back, since the last one totally sucked without him.

And Sofia would FUCKING ROCK THAT SHIT.

Actually, that's a really interesting idea. Although I could more have seen her taking the first one, which is less action-centric than the second. But then, she probably would have made it too artsy, and the fan base probably wouldn't have gone much for that.

(agreed about kloves, blackc)

This is why Heat cracks me up a lot of the time. JON FREAKIN TURTLETAUB'S NAME is all over the trailers for both NT and NT: BOS. Let me look at the DVDs. Look at that... HIS NAME RIGHT THERE ON THE COVER! Sure it's small, but the point is made. You would really have to be an oblivious motherfucker to not know who directed those two films.

Oh yeah CLOUDY... LUNA FUCKING LOVEGOOD! You are lucky that we do not have the opportunity to "take it outside" because if we did. You and I... would take it outside.

I'll give you Luna, IO, but the rest of the movie, not so much. It's a fabulous book, and Yates and whoever wrote the script sapped the life out of it like Voldemort draining the blood of a centaur. Evanna Lynch was a rare bright spot in an otherwise dull movie. I'm hoping Kloves can sort out the mess that was Half-Blood Prince. Two lousy Potter flicks in a row is something I don't want to contemplate.

OotP is the best in the series. If you are not down. You can go outside. I will get to you. After I deal with Jeff. COME ON JEFF! COME OUTSIDE AND GET YOUR BEATIN!

Oh yeah: fuck bringing up the book. Seriously; book adaptation people are the most annoying people on the entire internet. IT'S A FREAKIN ADPATATION! LIVE WITH IT, EMBRACE IT, AND BUY TDK ON DVD TOMORROW! Oh I forgot. It's you lot. You lot could care less.

What do you want?

IO, the first four are also book adaptations. You don't hear me complaining about those, and those also deviate from the books. OotP is a poor movie in its own right, it's got nothing to do with the book.

"You lot could care less." About what, TDK? Yes, I care so little about it I have it as my number 1 movie of the year.

Wish I knew what IO was so hilariously ranting about there; I've never seen a HP movie.

Back to "Twilight," it is worth adding that any "edgy" filmmaker will have to rein in their darker and more adventuresome instincts, as Stephenie Meyer's squeaky-clean Mormonism seems to be a curiously important factor in the old-school, slightly conservative, retro, Puritanical sensibility. Pretty sure even the mildest of profanities aren't allowed.

Which not only foils my LEXi ALEXander dream, but my AWESOME IDEA that they should just FUCK IT and bring on some balls-out, B-tier action guy like Simon West or Wiseman or De Bont and just have them go fucking insane with it, jacking up the violence and tarting up K-Stew and putting her in midriff tops and skirts and relocating everything to sun-scorched L.A.

That would FUCKING OWN.

By the way, can we have a rule that only people from countries with royal families are allowed to use the phrases "you lot", "bloody hell" and "I'm going to the loo"?

Yeah, Lex, that would make about as much sense as hiring Brett Ratner to do Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants 3.

BLAKE LIVELY OWNS.

You just made that name up.

BLAKE LIVELY is one of the two SUPER FUCKING HOT stars of GOSSIP GIRL, son, one of the principles in "Sisterhood of Whatever the Fuck," AND her sister is Robyn Lively, '80s star of such gems as "Teen Witch."

They should put her in the next "Twilight" and she and K-STEW can have a pillow fight, TOTAL OWNAGE.

Also, Jeff, you just inadvertantly posted the GREATEST FUCKING IDEA EVER--

GIVE TWILIGHT 2 TO RATNER!!!!!!!

(Wait, BAD IDEA; Please keep his fat, inexplicably starlet-attracting ass away from THE STEW and THE REED.)

I don't watch any of those things. They might be great, I don't know. I do think it's amusing that a guy who believes "adults shouldn't watch AKIRA" will watch something called TEEN WITCH.

KRISTEN STEWART OWNS YOUR ASS AND OWNS EVERYTHING EVER, greatest ACTRESS OF ALL TIME, most AWESOME WOMAN EVER ON THIS PLANET, TOTAL WHOLESALE MEGAOWNAGE, K-STEW 4 EVA.

Really? Hadn't heard that one.

(which is to say, fuck I hate Lex.)

Nah, I don't believe that; We're getting along fine tonight, and no way I believe you're not just kinda used to these outbursts by now. Just bow down and admit you're powerless in the THRALL of LEXG and the THRALL OF K-STEW OMG IS SHE AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME.

K-STEW = GOD.

I'll admit I'm home, bored, with no reason to wake up early tomorrow because my last freelance job ended.

I will _not_ agree to the other stuff, especially to this unexplainable fixation on a mediocre, boyish actress.

BLASPHEMY DOUCHE.

K-STEW. BOW TO THE STEW.

ZATHURA OWNS YOU.

I just don't have your babysitter fetish, sorry.

(I don't know what that means at all, jeff.)

OK I want to say something about Catherine Hardwicke that I don't know if I can articulate but I'll try.

I hear she has a "difficult" relationship, but for a female director, I've liked the three of her movies I've seen a lot (didn't see Nativity.)

I don't really care if she's a pain in the ass, because probably most male directors I like are huge-time pricks, and I think they OWN. So if The Wicke wants to be a pill while still cranking out movies with THE STEW, THE REED, and THE WOOD, I got no problems with that.

But one thing I noticed in a lot of interviews is she always seems kinda annoying, in how she's all acting like she's still young and down with her young actors. Like, HEY LAVERNE, aren't you like 50 years old?????? In some DOGTOWN interviews, she's pathetically trying to act all hip and like some cool Fonzie Mom on the set, like chillin' at their parties and shit. And in TWILIGHT interviews, she was acting all the expert on the scene today. I mean, yeah, she's old as fuck, but it's interesting how she's all trying to be the COOL MOM on her sets. Personally I'd be all annoyed and shit or jealous that they're all young and good-looking and having fun, and going out of my way to be AS MISERABLE AS POSSIBLE.

I get that a lot from Italian and Euro directors, where they're all romantic and full of life and respectful of everyone's earthly pursuits.

I ACTIVELY WISH TO BE AN ASSHOLE AND RUIN THE MOOD OF ANYONE WHO'S HAPPY TO BRING THEM DOWN TO MY MISANTHROPIC LEVEL. What is C-Wicke so happy about, and how does it not bother her that her casts are all young and frivolous>?

As Fred Durst once said, "EVERYTHING IS FUCKED, EVERYBODY SUCKS."

Lex, the answer is that she's a vacuous idiot. European directors are different lifestyle-wise, because they spend all their time drinking wine and not being obnoxious except to their wives and mistresses.

Also, thanks for answering my question from earlier (more succinctly, self-loathing directed outwards).

oh, aren't you two just the cutest

'some cool Fonzie Mom'
lol, i must be far too easily amused but that conjured up the weirdest ladyman image in my head

(and jeff, you know you're sorta fond of lex'tourettesoutburst'g in spite of yourself, you guys are like the two sides of two-face's face... or some such shit)

and to you typepad fucking clowns: i had to sign in seven times just to make that stupid comment, so read it and die

THE JOKER FUCKING OWNS.

Hey, has anyone ever had a sexist conspiracy theory that most of Bigelow's "classics" were really Cameron movies?

(Not saying I believe that; I dig her a lot, and "Hurt Locker" is allegedly awesome. But come on, J.C. wrote, produced, or lent his stock company to her three or four best.)

K-STEW.

Leah, "Fonzie Mom" is pretty funny. Sounds like one of the Village People.

I like Lex just fine during the 25% of the time when his illness isn't doing the talking, and then during the other 75%, especially when he refuses to do anything positive with his life, all goodwill drains away. The whole idea of someone speaking through their raging id is alien to me, and I would forgive it if it was ever funny, but that ship sailed a long time ago.

K-STEW, MEET EVAN RACHEL.

NOW PILLOWFIGHT.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

We're like Abbott and Costello put through a Bukowski filter.

Hey McDouche let's a hit a strip club sometime; I usually roll in already TOTALLY HAMMERED and say like 'What's up sugar tits" to all the chicks who come up, then order up like seventeen consecutive lapdances then while they're grinding my knob I make a lot of hilarious Bondian double entendres like "HEY I GOT A TEN SPOT IN MY POCKET... OH YEAH, AND THERE'S SOME MONEY IN THERE TOO." I FUCKING OWN.

Then I usually wad up some billz and just throw them at the chick all dismissively.

My guess is that none of that has ever happened; and that I have been to more strip clubs than Lex.

I think it's cute that IO thinks the average person would know who the fuck Jon Turtletaub is, with his name on the cover or not. I know a lot of people who thought Tarantino directed Hostel. I bet a lot of folks couldn't name who directed The Dark Knight.

Get a room, guys.

I slept with a few strippers. Didn't catch a thing either!

Perm: it's called paying attention. If you pay attention. You will see JON TURTLETAUB's name all over the TRAILERS for both of those films. It's just called paying attention.

It's not my fault Heat does not pay enough attention to fucking NT trailers! I mean really, I'm not his momma! I cannot do his job for him!

My family and I watched National Treasure 2 a week or two ago. My wife and in-laws are big fans of both of them. None of them could tell you who directed either one, nor do they have any clue that it is the same director of another movie they love and watch from time to time, Phenomenon. If I said the name Jon Turtletaub to them, the response would be "Who in the hell is that?"

^^^ Great story. Are they even the type of people who give a shit about such things?

My father-in-law is totally clueless, nor does he care. He'll forget he even saw a movie a week after he watched the entire thing, not because he didn't like it but because his memory is terrible. My mother-in-law and wife care more and are interested in Hollywood more than the average person, but they still don't know who directors like Jon Turtletaub are. They know Scorsese and Tarantino and Spielberg, but not much more than that.

^^^ I figured. Most people are like that I believe. At least my family is.

I agree. I would bet that the vast majority of mainstream moviegoers have no idea who Jon Turtletaub is.

Off topic, but has anyone checked out the "JCVD" trailer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z_6UfkQ-c0

it looks great.

Who the fuck actually watches GOSSIP GIRL? Besides overanaxious New York magazine writers?

"I bet a lot of folks couldn't name who directed The Dark Knight."

Hell, I bet a lot of folks couldn't name who played Batman in THE DARK KNIGHT!

By the way, I had to sign in FIVE TIMES before I could post the above. I thought all this TypePad mishegas had been fixed...

People experiencing TypePad shenanigans do seem to be in a minority now, Cadavra. Kind of like the people who know Jon Turtledove directed National Treasure.

"Who the fuck actually watches GOSSIP GIRL?"

People who like looking at HOT CHICKS BEING AWESOME.

LEIGHTON MEESTER OWNS YOU.

Gossip Girl is a solid show. Ed Westwick, people. ED FUCKING WESTWICK!

I bet you lot are a bunch of elitist assholes, that believe they are better than everyone else except Lex. You know he owns. SARAH JOSEPHA HALE, BITCHES!

I guarantee that Joe and Jane Public don't know who directed National Treasure, big credits or no. I also guarantee that Joe and Jane Public don't know who directed the Lord of the Rings movies.

I also guarantee you that you are wrong. Who knows what the public at large knows or does not know? It's all fucking conjecture, and based upon them PAYING FUCKING ATTENTION!

Once again Stella throws his family and friends under the fucking bus, and misses the fucking point. If you actually pay attention. If what you see and hear does not go through one ear and out the other. It's hard to not know who directs NT and NT: BOS. Seriously; it's called PAYING FUCKING ATTENTION. Learn it, live it, and accept it.

Again... stop being elitist.. yo.

Hey Lex did you see Robyn Lively on 30 Rock?

IO, your argument is that the general audience pays attention to who directs mildly diverting movies like National Treasure? Please. A nice chunk of the public thought Obama had ties to terrorists based on his name.

By the way, there are five people over here right now and I asked them if they knew who directed National Treasure. No one did. Asked them if they know who directed the Lord of the Rings movies. One did.

Your argument is like Lex's life. Failure.

IOI, I am indeed making a conjecture that nobody in the general public knows who Turteltaub is, just as you are making a conjecture too. The difference is, my conjecture is substantially more likely to be true.

Most people not only don't know who directs the movies they see, they also don't care. Paying attention has nothing to do with it, unless you're an obsessive cinephile like most of the people who post here - this population is significantly different from the population at large, who see an average of something like 4 or 5 movies a year.

^ Is the average that high? I thought it was something like 1-2 movies a year.

You could be right.

Isn't GOSSIP GIRL based on a series of teen high school books about future Paris Hiltons?

Just somebody admit that that IO and Lex are the same person...we likes Hobittses!

IO, why do you immediately get so pissed off and turn into a dick? I wasn't picking a fight with you. I just disagree. I'm also not "throwing my family under the bus." I use them as an example because unlike me and the people posting here, they are average moviegoers. They would agree with me on this and hardly be offended by what I'm saying. They don't pay attention to the names of directors. They don't know who directed the National Treasure movies, nor do they have any idea who directed Twilight or the new 007 movie. My wife loves Casino Royale and watches it constantly. She doesn't know who Martin Campbell is. No one is being elitist. Most moviegoers just don't pay attention to who directs something.

IO turns into a dick because he's a typical internet "persona" type who only seems to champion nerd movies and scream a lot. Dark Knight for Best Picture, yo! BUFFY!!!

He's also a dirty liar but he won't cop to that.

I see something like 8 movies in the theater a year and before thsi thread, if you offered me a million dollars and Lex's death, I couldn't tell you what Jon Turtlepoop directed. And now tha I know, I care even less. He's not the worst to be sure, he gets the job done and his movies are good enough. And for something like National Treasure, that's about all you can ask for.

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