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December 01, 2008
Why People Hate Junketeers
I saw, over on Defamer, this bit about what an asshole Phillip Seymour Hoffman is because he... ahem... dared to suggest the truth...
That it would be IDIOTIC for him to tell journalists what he thought the priest he plays in ths film Doubt did or did not do. And that it would selfish and missing the point entirely for "journalists" to run stories about what he thought the answer was.
The movie is called DOUBT, not "I Know What You Did In The Rectory Last Summer."
Doubt! The audience is invited to question what happened, not to be told by the actor what he thought happened, therefore somehow confirming or denying how they think about it themselves... which is the point of the experience.
I find it so incredibly offensive that idiots are indulged in trying to paint an artist who is trying to maintain the integrity of his work as a jerk. And no, I don't think Phil loves doing press. But give him a break. Even Tommy Lee Jones, the most notorious tough interview in the business, will give you a whole lot if he feels that you are being respectful and asking smart questions. Same with Morgan Freeman. But refusing to suffer fools gladly is not a sin... unless you are the fool.
Posted by dpoland at December 1, 2008 02:04 PM
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This brings up the issue that has really permeated our culture which seems to demand an answer to anything clearly meant to be presented as ambiguous. Catharsis junkies, I believe, is the term for these people.
Why isn't it an issue when movies (mostly Hollywood blockbusters) spell out every plot point and underline every "theme" often inflating the running times to at least a half hour beyond what the film's length should have been?
Posted by: swordandpen
at December 1, 2008 02:37 PM
Questions like that are why I rarely do roundtables anymore.
The bummer is that there's a good question in there - does PSH's process have him not just figuring out what his character did or didn't do but also writing it out/going into it in detail? Did he consult with Shanley on it at all or did they act like agnostics about it all throughout shooting?
Posted by: Devin Faraci
at December 1, 2008 02:55 PM
faraci nailed it...she didn't ask him if his character actually did something...she acknowledges there is doubt and asks him 'how important was it that he know what his character did' (implying that knowledge might inform his performance)...he could have just answered 'not important at all' or 'very important' but chose to rant instead...
Posted by: scooterzz
at December 1, 2008 04:42 PM
I think his reluctance to speculate on "what really happened" is reasonable and appropriate; but his response was unnecessarily belittling. And that's the point. The "suffering fools gladly" comment is overboard.
Posted by: mysteryperfecta
at December 1, 2008 05:00 PM
Seeing all those bolded and capitalized words in this posting also makes me look forward to DOUBT! The Musical! Starring Nathan Lane as the dancing priest and Cloris Leachman as his zany nemesis.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at December 1, 2008 05:14 PM
if nathan lane is the priest there will be very little doubt...
Posted by: scooterzz
at December 1, 2008 05:34 PM
...Kevin Spacey then perhaps?
Posted by: jeffmcm
at December 1, 2008 05:43 PM
''Seeing all those bolded and capitalized words in this posting also makes me look forward to DOUBT! The Musical! Starring Nathan Lane as the dancing priest and Cloris Leachman as his zany nemesis.'
'if nathan lane is the priest there will be very little doubt...'
jeff and scoot, bringing the funny :-D
Posted by: leahnz
at December 1, 2008 05:58 PM
"if nathan lane is the priest there will be very little doubt..."
Because he's gay, there would be very little doubt that he WAS a child molester? How dare you!
Just kidding.
Posted by: mysteryperfecta
at December 1, 2008 06:19 PM
A textbook case of a good question poorly asked. Hoffman says "of course" I thought it out. If tht's the case, then how does he create doubt if knows the answer?
Posted by: Jimmy the Gent
at December 1, 2008 06:46 PM
Reminds me a bit of the Michael Bay tantrum when an interviewer asked him: "Were you thinking about 9/11 when you were creating all the destruction in TransFormers?" And he answered along the lines "Of course I was, you stupid lady. What kind of a fucking stupid ass question is that? That's one of the dumbest fucking questions I've ever heard." Very funny. I'm still not sure if Bay knew what the question was, not that it was relevant to TransFormers.
Posted by: martin
at December 1, 2008 07:11 PM
I suspect the folks who are siding with the questioner have not seen "Doubt." It's a dumb question, plain and simple.
In any case, it isn't PSH's job to "create doubt." It's the movie's. (Spoiler alert, I guess: And, by the way, Shanley has said repeatedly that he tells each actor who plays the priest -- and only that actor -- whether or not he did it. Intriguingly, I don't think Shanley has said if the guilt/innocence is the same for every actor.)
Posted by: chris
at December 1, 2008 07:49 PM
actually, chris, i side with the questioner and i've seen both the play and the film...not a dumb question (perhaps poorly worded though) and, apparently, not 'plain and simple'...
Posted by: scooterzz
at December 1, 2008 08:56 PM
"How important is it to you to know what happened?" How on earth could he NOT know?
Posted by: chris
at December 1, 2008 10:02 PM
Jeff's "Doubt: The Musical" crack was a good one.
How long before someone announces a B'way musicalization of "Slumdog Millionaire" (done Bollywood-style, of course)?
Posted by: movieman
at December 2, 2008 04:19 AM
Shanley consulted with all of the actors who played Flynn on Broadway about whether the character was guilty or not, so I'd imagine he did with Hoffman as well.
Posted by: CaptainZahn
at December 15, 2008 10:08 AM
Already noted. See four posts before yours, Captain Zahn.
Posted by: chris
at December 15, 2008 02:18 PM
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