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January 25, 2009

The Re-Creation Heard 'Round The 'Dance

You may have heard about the fight between "The Dude" aka Jeff Dowd and John Anderson, film critic at Sundance. If you haven't been following our coverage on The MCN Sundance Blog, here is a look at our re-creation, co-starring who else but Michael Jai White... and Dowd's detailed explanation, after the jump...

(quite low in volume for the first minute)

Posted by dpoland at January 25, 2009 09:43 PM

Comments

You're enabling Dowd to do more harm to this movie than any bad review ever could, and that really makes me feel sorry for the filmmakers.
Maybe the movie works so badly that nobody wants to review it, but it seems like a really good book to me (so does the writer's book about
the the Oak Tree). Agnes Varnum (btw, I like her Sundance round-up piece) opens her review of Dirt saying she doesn't normally write about movies she doesn't like, which can only mean she's making an exception for this one, because, well, read it for yourself.

http://agnesvarnum.com/2009/01/20/sundance-09-dirt-the-movie/

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 25, 2009 10:50 PM

In response to a comment at Anne Thompson's site:

Check out Roger Ebert's take on the Dowd/Anderson fight, complete with The Dude's video of his experience:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/01/dude_wheres_my_breakfast.html


I replied:

No, here's the The Dude's video of his experience:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZUbAbo5uvY

I know I'd have felt very threatened if Dowd sat down at my table, whether he were speaking to me or I were a guest at the table or one nearby. Aren't restaurants supposed to throw people out who are harassing customers not twice, but thrice? Can't someone defend themselves and/or their guests if the restaurant doesn't?

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 07:50 AM

I offered the youtube video to someone as a scoop, since no one has put it up yet and the reply was, in part, "this is like Exhibit A for the permanent closure of YouTube."

I don't get why? A man explains how he threatened another man. And puts a website address at the end, not of the movie, but of Jackie Martlins joke site.

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 08:48 AM

Having crossed paths with The Dude a time or two, what most impressed me about him was 1) his ability to suck all the oxygen out of the room, 2) his unfailing knack for making everyone else in the room sounds like a moron, and 3) his reputation, which is rather out of proportion to his resume. Frankly, I'm amazed no one's taken a swing at him before now.

Posted by: Cadavra [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 12:07 PM

Yeah... that video was shot at Tom Bernard's birthday party, drunk, the next night after we shot both our re-creation and the explanation.

It's Jackie's edit.

Jeff told me about it yesterday, but I hadn't tracked it down.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 12:33 PM

What's the difference? He says the same thing in yours.

As Tim at Anne's said, "intimidation is violence with or without fists."

Intimidation, or feeling threatened or having people at your table being subjected to it, is violence, with or without fists.

Even if someone were interested in reviewing the movie at Spout or All These Wonderful Things or indieWIRE, I don't think they would out of fear.

So aside from the movie being harmed in more ways than a bad review ever could hurt it, there's residual cost to freedom of the press and critics.

What was Michael Barker thinking appearing at the end of the youtube video? He's the one bemoaning the loss of critics to the indie world in part one of The Sundance Panic Button Panel here:

http://trulyfreefilm.blogspot.com/2009/01/sundance-panic-button-panel.html

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 01:05 PM

Again, TH... this was a home video at a birthday party... neither Michael Barker or Tom Bernard were making intentional appearances expecting this to be on the web.

As for intimidation... if you find Dowd intimidating, then you are a wimp. He is a gentle giant who can be as loud and fierce as anyone, which can irritate... but to keep a critic from reviewing... really?

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 02:40 PM

You're right Dave, Tom Bernard makes no appearance, Dowd just says in your video that he ran into Jackie Martling and says Jackie said he'll call his friend Tom and tell him he should buy the movie. And Barker didn't make an intentional appearance, but he's there and he was on the Panic Button panel.

You and I will never agree that Dowd is describing an act of intimidation especially at 4:45 on the youtube video.

I doubt anyone other than Agnes Varnum was interested in reviewing the movie, and I seriously doubt anyone will have the guts to do it now because the Dude is too famous.

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 03:02 PM

Tom is in the Martling video you linked to... watch it again if you didn't see him the first time.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 03:28 PM

Then they can use the birthday money to make a four figure offer to Dowd to buy the movie, who needs a good review?

If Anne Thompson is being let go as Nikki Finke is saying, she'd do incredible PR work for a movie; I'd never, ever hire Dowd.

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 03:54 PM

I've got a great idea -- send the Sundance cut to Roger Ebert and see if he'll give it thumbs up.

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 26, 2009 10:37 PM

I've sent this request along to Roger Ebert:

There's one way to solve this -- Dowd or Cottrell sends you a cut of the movie shown at Sundance, and you determine the best way for you to write an honest review and share it with us.

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 27, 2009 07:54 AM

Review sounds similar to Varnum; doesn't have the quality Dowd tried to influence but ultimately suppressed, and this contains info that the other wouldn't have mentioned. Walk-outs are as irrelevant as Q&A's or even "testimonials" by the flock. (This one mentions the educational circuit
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117939499.html?categoryid=31&cs=1). I think there could be a festival strategy, have to consult the book Dowd was interviewed for that he thought would get him tit for tat.

If "Crude" starts off well and falters in the end, "Dirt! The Movie" goes the opposite direction.

No movie I've attended at this year's Festival has had more early walk-outs and I can't say I necessarily blame them. "Dirt!" begins with one talking head after another raving about "The Earth's Skin." The early process of raving about soil and its impact on all of our lives is redundant -- Yes, dirt's alive, get it -- and also silly, like the wine expert who explains that really oenology is about the dirt and proceeds to walk around noshing on it.

What directors Bill Beneson and Gene Rosow are doing, though, is the documentary equivalent of the rudimentary five-paragraph argumentative essay most people were taught in high school. They begin with generalities and frivolity, but their focus rapidly tightens. Soon we're learning about how farming and agriculture effect soil. The answer? Badly. That expands to what the destruction of dirt does to humans. The answer? Drought, famine and war. It's reductive, but it's also persuasive. And finally, having painted a persuasive apocalyptic picture, the film closes with a long section on reclaiming the Earth, on things people can do in their own communities to bring dirt back.

And darned if I wasn't moved by the prisoners at Riker's Island talking about how gardening had changed their lives. And darned if I wasn't impressed at the woman in New York City trying to bring patches of green to rooftops and sidewalks. The people making houses out of dung? That touched me a bit less.

"Dirt!" isn't going to win converts with its artistry, though a few animated sequences feature a cute and expressive dirt blob, but it has a clear thesis which it pursues with clarity. At the very least, and this shouldn't be considered an insult, "Dirt! The Movie" should provide teachable moments for high school and college classrooms for years to come. There's nothing wrong with that.

by Daniel Fienberg

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-the-fien-print/posts/2009-1-23-sundance-reviews-crude-and-dirt-the-movie?comment_id=510&page=1

Posted by: T. Holly [TypeKey Profile Page] at January 28, 2009 08:54 AM

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