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Angels and America? HA HA HA! Overrated and overwrought.

People have stated it should be a freakin mini-series? LIES LIES LIES! No one has ever stated this, but they have about the Preacher.

Bottom line: you are wrong. Dwight should subject you to a fire drill, and you should experience the fear of using a COPIER AS A BATTLING RAM!

Whatever. I will see the movie and decide for myself I like it or not.

Can anybody please email me the PDF screenplay of Watchmen? I'd like to read it before watching it this weekend, since there won't be subtitles at the cinema.

IOI...

...so you've seen it?

Ryan: I responded to two of his points, that were out and out bollocks. It has nothing to do with seeing the film as of yet, but everything to do with this type of review being rather dicky.

Am I Ryan now?

Yes. You are Ryan now. You broke Michael Scott's heart. I hope you are happy!

On AICN the talkbackers constantly assert that Watchmen should have been a mini-series. As they did with Preacher.

Permish: I have never come across that on a talkback ever. I always got the Preacher, but no one ever bringing up Watchmen should be a Mini-Series. Especially in light of the common knowledge, that people have been trying to make a Watchmen film for close to 20 years.

Haha, that's excellent.

IO, Angels in America is brilliant. Better than a good 95% (probably more) of the movies released this decade.

People have stated it should be a freakin mini-series? LIES LIES LIES! No one has ever stated this, but they have about the Preacher.

io---david hayter (screenwriter) said it should have been a mini-series...he originally pitched it to hbo...it's only because larry gordon said 'no, no...i do movies, i don't know anything about tv' (an actual quote, btw)...that hayter went with a feature....

K: sorry; I disagree. It's bloody terrible, and it's now "And the Band Plays On." It's just too overwrought and way overrated. If you like it. Good. Not my thing.

Scott: again, I have never once in more than a decade of reading this stuff online, read about anyone wanting a Watchmen mini-series. If they did. It was years ago, and people stopped posting about it online.

If he's not lying. Good for him, my bad, but it's an odd reference to make. When most people have wanted a WATCHMEN MOVIE for close to 20 years.

io--you just don't know what you're talking about...i sat down with both gordon and hayter over two weeks ago...it was originally pitched for tv....now...do not play...

IO, I did a Google search. Not even mentioning AICN. First page, here's a Talkback. Look howmany times they mention a mini-series being a better idea. This is even back when Aronofsky was announced as director.

http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/17410

Four hours isn't too long for a film if it merits it. I saw the long cut of DAS BOOT in a theater and was never bored.

Never bored in Watchmen either. Can't wait for the extended versions.

Scott: again, I never once came across that freakin sentiment. Not once. Permish can google it all he wants, but I never came across it. Also, really, you are a junket person? That's funny.

io -- then you need to do better research....

Scott: it has nothing to do with research. It has to do with me reading sites where people are not into a mini-series of anything other than THE PREACHER. You are a junket person. Besides being let into a room, and being able to talk to producers. What exact research do you do exactly?

I thought you were a gay guy. I now know you are a catty woman. It makes so much sense now. It really does.

Play? Oh you should never play. Never.

If you never came across it IO, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just means you're ignorant of facts.

IO, you stated that nobody wanted a mini-series. Perm proved you wrong. Is it even possible for you to admit you made a mistake? Kyle C is less ignorant than you. Get over it.

And we all know you read AICN, where the mini-series idea has been brought up a number of times, so you do read those types of sites. You're just a little challenged, aren't you?

Al El Borish: I stated my bad, but I never came across it ANYWHERE. I have not read one article in the ramp up to this film bringing up a MINI-SERIES! Not fucking one. Please point it out to me. Please.

If you want to get smart with me. Go right ahead. I apologized to Kyle, but I never read one mention of a Watchmen mini-series. Not one. If you think I am liar Al El Borish. You are such a douche, that you fit in perfectly with Permish and Scott Junky.

Oh yeah: IT'S NOT A FACT! It was a PITCH. Most people have wanted a movie, and a Preacher mini-series. The fact that the lot of you non-geeks are calling me out, makes me laugh. Scott Junky being a Junketeer. Makes me laugh even more. I am being insulted by Nancy O'Dell! OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY!

io -- almost every assumption you've made, so far, has been wrong... i don't do a lot of junkets but when a studio calls with one for a movie i'm really looking forward to (and am a fan of the source material) you betcha i'm there...anything else and i assign it out...

the (often regretted) nickname comes from a vehicle i used when in school and has no relation to my actual name...

and, finally, you assume that people are going to forget that you are the contemptible io just because you type a different handle....
assumptions, io...never a good thing...

Scott Junky: you act like I changed my name because of the lot of you. I changed it because I wanted to change it. It has nothing to do with you.

What does have to do with you, is me renaming each and everyone of you. You use the old name, I give you a new name, and I will always refer to you as that new name. It's a fun little game. Sort of like you going from Scott to Scott Junky! Good times.

So Scott Junky: you are in a position of power, and you overrule your subordinates whenever something cool is coming along. Good shit.

Does anyone ever name themselves after a scooter? Apparently they do. Apparently they do... I HEARD THAT CURTIS! Ooh look! Spoony gave me a catchphrase.

Contemptible? Better than catty! BOOYEAH!

Oh yeah: Kyle C just made a catty fucking cartoon that Poland sited as a reference to his dislike of the film. HE KNEW IT WAS COMING! You should have as well.

IO...dumbfuck...it IS a fact that people were calling for a mini-series. The fact that it's been put in front of you and you still can't wrap it around your head proves you're a retard.

You played, but unfortunately for you, you played in the parking lot at midnight all alone, and didn't notice the child molester hiding behind the 1974 Mustang.

And you just got fucked.

Permish: you are still a stupid whore. Let me type this real slow. So your X riddled brain will pick up. I AM NOT DENYING IT'S A FACT! You stupid twit. I already stated that I was wrong above, and restated I never came across it! I simply stated to Scott Junky, that they PITCHED the show. If you cannot understand that you ditzy washout. You really need to come up with analogies that do not make you come across like the fat creepy fucker. Who hangs out with little kids, and tries to touch them in the bad place whenever they came.

You know you have molested children. When are you going to admit it to yourself Permish? When are you going to make restitution? You heinous ass.

CAME BY their houses. Not came because that's what Permish hopes to achieve... in the bad place. You horrible fuck of a human being.

Maybe if you made sense it would be easier to understand you. But then you'd have to work on being less stupid, and I know you have lots of comic books to whack off on and don't have time for that.

IO got ownd.

Oh, and I think we use your old name because your new one is too long. And I didn't say you intentionally lied, you unintentionally lied because you're ignorant.

Also, in case you didn't notice, Kyle C liked the movie, he even went so far as to call it "pretty good", whereas DP didn't.

And you should probably go see the movie, because all you seem to do is attack people that actually know what they're talking about without adding anything new about the movie or why you liked it.

As I've written before: If someone came onto this blog for the first time, and this thread was his/her first expsoure to the level of discourse here... sheesh... Would he/she come back?

Guilty as charged, Joe. My bad.

Actually, Loco, you've been relatively civil....

Permish: I am sure it's easier to type without all of the crying little kids in the background. The fucking analogies you come up with as a poster, and you act like I am fucking backwards? Really? Oh fuck you. Fuck you right back into the hole in which a fat fuck sack of shit lives. Seriously; crawl in the hole, suck on your 'coon dick, and fuck you very much.

AL El Borish: I got owned from the fucking creep fuck? Really? Have you read his analogies? I would doubt he's Cartman, and enjoyed feeding Scotty Tennerman his parents.

Oh yeah dipshit: SEE THE MOVIE? DO I HAVE TO SEE THE MOVIE TO ATTACK A CATTY ASSHOLE AND CREEP FAT FUCK WHO ATTACKED ME FIRST? FUCK NO! Also; Kyle C did not like shit. Pretty good is like referring to something as ALRIGHT. You like it, but you do not LIKE IT. Leave it to a fucking BORE to not GET THE FUCKING HINT!

If that review is favourable. Permish will continue to try and see his own dick. Wait. He's still trying to see his own dick.

Oh yeah: Permish is Cartman, and got all Titus on someone.

Joe: WHAT DISCOURSE? Catty broad and Vanish Dick attacked me. They attacked me, I responded in kind, and I WILL ALWAYS RESPOND IN KIND!

Also; who the fuck would want to come to this blog? It's riddled with bitches, cunts, and dicks. Hell. There are not enough assholes for the dicks to fuck. The dicks are only left to fucking the bitches and the cunts, but craving assholes. So, really, it's a fucking bullshit blog, filled with people WHO ATTACK MOTHERFUCKERS LEFT AND RIGHT, then FAIN LIKE THEY ARE INNOCENTS!

THERE ARE NO INNOCENTS! YOU ARE ALL GUILTY! SO SAYETH ME... I AM THE LAW and I watched Judge Dread recently. Good lord that movie is horrible, but it has some great lines.

I stared out civil.

IO, it's true that I can't see my own dick right now. Because it's up your mother's ass!

um....ok....that went well....
i think an exorcist is in order.....

Creepy fuck: OH MY GOD! YOU ARE GOING ON ABOUT FUCKING MY MOM IN THE ASS! WOW! AREN'T YOU CLEVER! WHY DON'T YOU PUT YOUR DICK BACK IN THE VACUUM, TURN IT ON HIGH, AND SEE HOW MUCH FUN YOU CAN HAVE!

Leave it to the tiny dick assmunch trying to insult my mom. Fucking creepy asshole. GO SUCK ON A 'COON DICK, BITCH!

I'm sorry, but I couldn't pass that one up.

Oh JESUS! THE FUCKING SCOOTER IS TALKING! THE FUCKING SCOOTER IS TALKING! OH MY GOD! THE SCOORTER IS NOT TALKING! IT'S ALL BLACK TEXT! OH MY GOD! WHAT IS HAPPENING!?!?!?! OH JESUS! IT'S THE HAPPENING!

Oh yeah you insightful bunch. A 'coon dick is a bone that Richard Christy's father sucks on during the Winter. It's apparently a delicacy.

I HEARD THAT CURTIS!

Scoot and Perm: I am sorry for yelling at both of you. There was no reason to get huffy, but I admit I was wrong. What more do I have to do to state that I happened to be wrong? Nevertheless; I should not have been snotty, and apologize for being snotty towards both of you. It was uncalled for, even if you did respond to me in an unfounded way.

When the geeks, be they on AICN or some other nerdy forum, break out this IT SHOULD BE A MINI-SERIES! argument: Is it really that they have ANY vision of what said mini-series should be and how it should play, OR (obviously) are they just demanding that every single comma, colon, and aside from their beloved book be represented on screen somehow, cinematic artistry be damned?

I think it was actually Big Perm (I think?) a month or two back who pointed out that umpteen HUNDRED classic novels have been adapted to film over the last century, often by strong, respected directors and filmmakers, and they all managed the art of book-to-film translation with the necessary filmmaking verve and expected modifications necessary when changing mediums. Why is WATCHMEN, of all goddamn things, so IMPOSSIBLE to film? Shit, I'm reading it as we speak and thinking, fuck, Sam Raimi or Greengrass or Fincher or the Wachowskis could've easily turned this into a 120-minute popcorn flick that wouldn't need to be so goddamn REVERENT.

It's silly to even indulge their dream idea of an eight-hour multi-part WATCHMEN that faithfully records every single event in the comic with minimal to no artistic license.

But why would ANYONE think that wouldn't just be like some blandly straightforward "Craig R. Baxley-adapting-Stephen King for TV" level bullshit? It's so important to have every goddamn panel on screen that you'd prefer some NBC MOW with Tim Daly and Jason Gedrick and Luke Perry and Eric Fucking Balfour as the WATCHMEN?

If they're thinking cable, that's just ludicrous, unless they want some serious shot-in-Vancouver Sci-Fi channel level production values done on a 10 mil budget.

Fucking geeks.

Who needs the Watchmen? I HAVE JAMES AND JULIETTE! GOOD STUFF! LOST: "Sticking it to the movie industry with it's own brand of AWESOME since 2004!"

I was going to say something but...

(He slowly backs up and exits...)

"I stated my bad"

Really? This is you apparently stating your bad:

"If he's not lying. Good for him, my bad, but it's an odd reference to make."

Even by doing so you still come across as being unable to admit you were wrong. And in the grand scheme of things I think making a "mom joke" is less offensive than calling someone a child molester, but hey maybe that's just me.

IO, I have a legit question for you: Have you ever been this gung ho for movie and then... not liked it? Like, we all know you champion these sort of movies and there's nothing wrong with it, but, like, did you ever champion something like, oh say, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow? I would legitimately in all honestly like to know. Not being catty or malicious here, I just want to know.

Kamel: people get shot in my part of the world for what Perm typed in here. I guarantee you that Perm would not state that to my face, or to anyone who hangs out around the corner from me. You simply do not attack someone's momma. IF you do. You better run.

So Perm gets what Perm gets, but his analogies are FUCKING CREEPY. Seriously, you folks have given me shit, but you have never given him shit over his creepy analogies. If you think this blog is worse for me, but better for him and the creepy ass shit he post. Well, really, we are on a different fucking wavelength. HE ALSO REFERRED TO ME AS A CHILD-MOLESTER FIRST KAMEL. He did, he knows he did, but he did it in a dead thread. He thought I would never see it, but I did. Thus putting this all back on him because he started it.

Also; I am not championin jack nor shit. I love the novel, I am sort amazed there's finally a freakin Watchmen movie coming out, and cannot wait to see it. I simply refuse to read something, and not call "BULLSHIT." This review is bullshit, Massawrywm's review on AICN is bullshit, and Poland's review is epic level DAVID POLAND DICKING AROUND BULLSHIT! It's at least funny. It's one of the reason I enjoy his work.

He's such a bore now, and so fucking out of touch with the mainstream. The guy will spend 1500 words on a review that basically goes a little something like this; "It's alright. It's nothing special. I might see it again. If I get passes."

Well thank you for sharing David. I eagerly await your next review in five months.

IOI, you're a dishonest person. Maybe it's not intentional - in fact, I think it almost certainly isn't. But you are _not_ in touch with honest reality.

Lex, I completely agree with you in that a respected director could have adapted the Watchmen into a fucking awesome 120 minute movie. But if that were to happen, the movie would be a completely different beast from the novel, which definitely ISN'T a bad thing, but Watchmen: The Novel is so dense and so full of information that a good mini-series could be made from it as well. I always figured the best way to do it would be to donate an hour to each chapter, or probably to every two chapters. Whether or not the series would be as foolishly faithful as the movie turned out to be, there's enough good stuff in the novel to cover that much.

IO certainly doesn't need backup when he's in SMOKE MONSTER mode, and everyone's just going entertainingly insane here, but for the record:

I do agree with IO that the "Mutual Admiration Society" of Perm, Kami, and Jeff (and laz to a lesser degree) have sort of a mental block sometimes when it comes to their own aridly unpleasant mean streak. Each can bring the blunt, unnecessarily ugly "terse" snipe as harsh as anyone, yet they all kind of feign this moral superiority where they're in the right. Perm a little less so on the righteousness tip, as I think he's just being sort of caustic... but his shock-posts usually aren't funny enough to excuse the sort of blunt ugliness, that goes at least as far as whatever IO's doing.

Yeah, I know, the guy who gets on a blog drunk and talks about his boner, or the guy who invokes THE SMOKE MONSTER AND THE BAT don't get to claim high ground either... But one time KC flat-out accused me of some heinous comment that CHUCKY IN JERSEY made in the wake of Minghella's death, and even after I pointed this out MULTIPLE TIMES, I never got an apology.

The Jeff, Kami, Laz and Perm crew is like some Hot Blog version of HUAC.

On movie-related matters, I think BP is fairly astute and I agree with a lot of his points... sometimes he's even amusing, but the terse "I fucked IO's whoever" shit just really belies his young age and comes off as slumming. Like, even if IO's really getting under your skin, all four of those dudes COULD take the higher ground but rarely if ever do so.

I don't personally give a shit and sort of invite those kind of reactions sometimes, but all of that group seems perfectly capable of maintaining interesting movie chat without this "Who MEEEEEEE?" faux-innocence that rings about as hollow as Buddy's disingenuous "THEY STARTED IT!" in "Christine."

A delusional fuckwad from Denver by way of Silverlake stated; "IOI, you're a dishonest person. Maybe it's not intentional - in fact, I think it almost certainly isn't. But you are _not_ in touch with honest reality."

Honest reality? What's honest reality? I have a friend who comes to this blog, and has no idea how you folks use your thumbs. Let alone act as if I am the BAD GUY like RAZOR...(Spit) RAMONE!

Seriously; the honest reality of this situation has always been I am the good guy, you are the bad guys, and Poland is the WATCHER! It is his job never to interfere. Unless the RULK is involved and JACKS HIM THE FUCK UP!

Nevertheless Jeffery; you have to be one of the more emotionally damaged people on this blog. Your soul must be so crushed, that you have to lash out at other people who you perceive to be living a life you will never lead. Your life is not one of quiet desperation. It's simply desperate. You are a sad little monkey. I would cry for you, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Last night. HOOAH!

See? I do not believe a bit of that last paragraph? WHY? YOU ARE A POSTER ON THE BLOG OF A BUSINESS/FILM DISCUSSER! Your post here are as much you as my post are as much me. Which is to state... THEY ARE BARELY US! So you really need to stop posting such ridiculous statements online.

They may only be online, but they are unbecoming. They make you look dumb. I doubt are dumb. So work it out motherfucker!

Lex: discuss your boner more. It couldn't be worse than me being attacked by a Kamel, a scooter, a perm, and a MCMAHON! "MR. MCMAHON!" I COULD ONLY BE SO LUCKY!

Nah, scooter is AWESOME.

You sure you do not want to discuss Kristen and her awesomeness? Maybe some MEGAFOX? Huh? Come on! DROP IT LIKE IT'S LEX!

I'd like to go on the record as saying I believe Wolverine will make more money than the Watchmen. Call it a professional hunch...

I would like to state that Watchmen is premiering on more screens than any other rated R movie in history. 80... PUT IT ON THE BOARD... YES!

IO,

WATCHMEN FUCK YEAH.

SILK SPECTRE RULES YOUR COCK.

MORE LIKE MALIN BONERMAN.

I'm impressed, I guess, that IOIOIOI is dropping more WWE references than even I have.

Re: the mini-series. IIRC, Gilliam was the first to breach the idea. It floated around the newsgroups in the mid-90's pre-web days and became fanboy mantra from then on.

The popcorn flick inside Watchmen negates the entire idea of adapting it in the fist place. If you think that's wrong, go watch LXG again. Moore just recently said League was the only material he's written that could have been adapted for film, but even that got F'd up.

A simple problem with Watchmen, like League or any other of Moore's work, is that Moore is British. He's perspective on superheroes is not American. He sees the concept from a distance, whereas Vendetta and League are written from an insider's viewpoint. Once you cross that line and hire Americans to adapt Moore you're losing the perspective.

IMO, Boorman should have done LXG, but he wasn't hip enough. I don't like to mention Boyle post-Slumdog because it looks like frontrunning, but he was one of the few who could have done Watchmen properly. My main choices were Cronenberg or Guy Ritchie, depending on what was being aimed for.

Martin S- whoops there goes another internet dick theory- the screenwriter of FROM HELL was Australian and League was English.

Anyway, Devin, David or whoever- what I noticed and NO ONE has mentioned yet is that the second group of heroes is supposed to be called something lame like CRIMEBUSTERS. There is no group called Watchmen in the book- that's kind of the point- the graffiti doesn't refer to the team specifically. How come no one has mentione this rather major thematic change?

the watchmen (aka the minutemen):
the comedian (edward blake) b.1918
nite owl (hollis mason) b. 1917
silk spectre (sally jupiter) b. 1918
mothman
silhouette
dollar bill
capt. metropolis
hooded justice

the new watchmen (aka the crimefighters):
the comedian (edward blake)
nite owl 2 (dan dreiberg) b. 1950
silk spectre 2 (laurie juspeczyk) b. 1953
dr. manhattan (jon osterman)
ozymandias (adrian veich) b. 1950
rorschach (walter kovacs) b. 1942
capt. metropolis

When have I acted moral superior on this blog? If I wanted to be morally superior I wouldn't be telling IO about the stuff I do with his mother every night. Since I don't care about being morally superior, I do. Lord knows she's not going to.

IO never gets under my skin. He can say ANYTHING he wants and I wouldn't give a shit. He's just annoying and loud and goes on the attack first to people too nice to say anything back, so I'll say something back because, to quote the movie Friday "It's my PLEASURE." He is also a liar and never apologized for saying I voted for Bush, so fuck him.

If you guys wouldn't act like a bunch of maniacs all the time, I'm sure a lot more people would be nicer to you. I've disagreed with Poland several times this week on stuff but never called HIM a cocksucker. Not have I let him know that I had intercourse with any of his relatives.

But maybe that's just because I haven't had a chance to meet them. Does Poland have any hot relatives?

scooterzz

I am willing to be corrected but you have not done so- when are they called THE WATCHMEN in the source material. I say they are not.

"Also; who the fuck would want to come to this blog? It's riddled with bitches, cunts, and dicks."

Irony!

I wonder if someone should tell IO/Curtis that USA has used the term "popcorn fare" in reference to Watchmen?

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-03-03-watchmen-main_N.htm

wasn't correcting you...just using cut and paste to point out that the actual two names were 'the minutemen' and 'the crimefighters'...but thanks for jumping to the negative spin...nice....

Don - Hey, look at that. I didn't realize Norrington was English and forgot about Morrison.

What's pretty funny is that it does blow up my theory and makes you the LCD.

I've got no personal beef with you, Don. Feel free to explain your decision making if you think you've been maligned. Norrington and Connery are no career threat. Rothman might not survive the Fox shakeup. Once and for all, let's read the logic behind Tom Sawyer, Super Vampire Mina Harker, et al. Hell, just give me the thought process behind Norrington, a guy everyone knew was totally ill-suited for LXG, and I'll acquiesce. Because all I see was a disparate attempt at a greenlight after someone said "Victorian X-Men".

My err - I said Morrison when it was Robinson as LXG adapter.

Oh yeah, this I'd like to hear!... although part of the answer, I assume, has to do with the studio not giving the public any credit for knowing any of the non-American literary figures in Moore's books. I guess they thought I was stoopid.

I wonder if there were any debates regarding this topic between the producers and the studio? I wonder who here can shed some light on this? The mere fact that the characters were changed indicates complete misunderstanding (not to mention utter contempt) of the source material.

Let's hear it.

IO is proof that one person can lower the level of discourse for a larger group... and indeed, create an atmosphere that others don't wish to participate in.

Don't feed the beast and it won't grow.

Some of you, including you, Joe, LOVE to feed the beast and then, when it gets out of control, you wonder what happened to the "good ol' days."

Don't feed the beast.

The beast is self-perpetuating.

I shouted out who killed the Kennedys when after all it was you and me and the Comedian

"When have I acted moral superior on this blog?"

All the fucking time. You, scooter, Jeff, and Kamel act as if you are morally superiour to Lex and I. When really, you're not. You're really not. You four just have a mean streak that you excuse from each other because you are attacking me or Lex.

"If I wanted to be morally superior I wouldn't be telling IO about the stuff I do with his mother every night. Since I don't care about being morally superior, I do. Lord knows she's not going to."

See? You think this is funny, but it demonstrates how much of an asshole you are. You are a fucking asshole. Who should be treated like an asshole. You act a certain way. You get treated a certain way. Where I come from, I would have all sorts of right to jack you the fuck up for those comments, but you think they are funny. This makes you an asshole.

"IO never gets under my skin."

Bullshit.

"He can say ANYTHING he wants and I wouldn't give a shit."

And I quote; "IO...dumbfuck...it IS a fact that people were calling for a mini-series. The fact that it's been put in front of you and you still can't wrap it around your head proves you're a retard." Yeah. You sure seem like I did not get under your skin right there.

"He's just annoying and loud..."

IT'S A FUCKING BLOG! THERE'S NO NOISE! Fucking hell. I am at least not a creep fucking asshole. Go read your analogies you fuck.

"and goes on the attack first to people too nice to say anything back..."

Not really. I can be as civil as the next guy, but you four are the enemy. You four act like raging dicks on this blog. Excuse me for not taking it, and responding to you in manner that you four deserve.

"so I'll say something back because, to quote the movie Friday 'It's my PLEASURE.' He is also a liar and never apologized for saying I voted for Bush, so fuck him."

You dumbshit. You stated that you were going to VOTE FOR McCAIN in your one of your EARLY POST! Which you later recanted, and stated this never happened. IT DID HAPPEN, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH, and THIS MAKES YOU A TOTAL DUMB MOTHERFUCKER. Why? YOU ARE MAD AT ME FOR SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAPPEN! Once again: fuck you -- YOU CREEP ASSHOLE!

"If you guys wouldn't act like a bunch of maniacs all the time..."

If you four would not act like morally superiour cunts (JEFFY POO'S FAVE WORD!). Which was on display a couple of weeks back with that chick who posted, and you teared her apart. All because she did not like Kurosawa.

"I'm sure a lot more people would be nicer to you."

It once again come to you four -- now two of the four -- stating you have a right to act this way. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHT TO ACT THIS WAY. This right here demonstrates that not only do you believe you are morally superiour. You also think that you can act people because THEY DESERVE IT. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and FUCK YOU TO!

"I've disagreed with Poland several times this week on stuff but never called HIM a cocksucker. Not have I let him know that I had intercourse with any of his relatives."

Again: you are not funny, and you thinking it funny. Demonstrates that you are just another white boy, that will say anything. Yet he would be surprised when he caught a beating. It demonstrates how fucking dumb and idiotic you are.

"But maybe that's just because I haven't had a chance to meet them. Does Poland have any hot relatives?"

Still not funny, asshole. Still not funny.

This is for MCWEENEY! UNLEASH THE SMOKE MONSTER!

"IO is proof that one person can lower the level of discourse for a larger group... and indeed, create an atmosphere that others don't wish to participate in."

Are you fucking high asshole? You create the atmosphere. You are a miserable bore a human being now. You also never regulate anything on this board. You let people ATTACK ME, then you blame the VICTIM? ARE YOU FUCKING AS DUMB AS YOUR WATCHMEN REVIEW MAKES YOU OUT TO BE? Or is it an act? IF you are siding with those CUNTS. You are siding with the people who ruin your blog.

Go read what I posted, then their responses. Which is worse? IF you think it's me. BAH! WRONG! Wrong as usual, but you let someone go on here and accuse me of fucking my own mother, then attacked me. So fuck you again for never getting my back.

"Don't feed the beast and it won't grow."

Again: TELL YOUR FUCKING BLOGGERS TO STOP BEING ASSHOLES TO PEOPLE, AND THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! You let Laz state he wants Lex to kill himself, and never stated anything. You let Perm state I am a BABYFUCKER, and you never stated anything. You let Jeff state all sort of slanderous shit about me, and never state shit about it. I AM NOT THE BEAST, THE BEAST IS THE BLOG, AND YOU NEVER FUCKING TAME IT!

You let people get attacked left and right because you lack the ability to take a stand. You let people utter horrible fucking shit to other posters, and you never state it's wrong. If anything: YOU ARE THE BEAST. You have to be, because who else is getting amusement out of this but FUCKING YOU. You are THE MAIN BAD GUY on this blog, Poland. You lack the balls or the heart these days, but you always have lacked them in spades when it comes to this blog.

Everything would be fucking cool. IF you did not attack POSTERS LIKE ME, but responded to those WHO DO

"Some of you, including you, Joe, LOVE to feed the beast and then, when it gets out of control, you wonder what happened to the "good ol' days."

Don't feed the beast."

This last paragraph demonstrates how fucking full of shit you are on your own blog. Get a fucking clue, Poland. I am not a BEAST. I AM JUST THE SMOKE MONSTER WHO CONFRONTS THE BEAST LIKE YOU! You and your cunts are what keeps this blog in the dumps. Lay down the law to ALL OF US, and maybe we can have a discussion. Until then; fuck you. Fuck you for attacking me, fuck you for thinking you have the right to attack me, and fuck you for thinking you are in the right. When you are what's wrong.

So, David, let me make sure I understand: Someone who crosses the line should be ignored? Or, like the Amish do, shunned?

Don't have time to read this whole thread, but I'm laughing my ass off at the first couple dozen posts. Everyone seems to have heard the talk of Watchmen as a mini for YEARS, but since IO was oblivious, it's not true? Priceless.

For the first time, maybe ever, I actually find you funny, IOCurtisWhatever.

Yeah I guess I didn't notice that name referencing (Don Murphy...), but I haven;t seen the movie yet, and I haven't read my old issues in a really really many years long time. When V for vendetta was being made I reread V, but for some reason I can;t get as psyched about Watchmen. maybe because I really didn't like what was done with 300...I really hope Watchmen does not have the 300 treatment. I'll see it anyway.

and for certain bloke who needs it on this blog (not Don Murphy):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5CltsEN8DQ

"So, David, let me make sure I understand: Someone who crosses the line should be ignored?"

That's what he's saying. And I agree. Although I think the blog owner should set guidelines for acceptable behavior and enforce them. Obviously, DP disagrees. Lose-lose.

You keep talking about "where I come from" IO. Do we get any hints to where that is? I think we could start a good guessing game here.

"Although I think the blog owner should set guidelines for acceptable behavior"

agreed...detracts from movies otherwise

JOE LEYDON YOU ARE A LIAR AND BAD AND CUNTY AND SOMEONE SHOULD STAB YOU IN THE HEAD!!! WATCHMEN NO POPCORN MOVIE WATCHMEN GREAT COMIC BOOK FUCK ME I LIKE MOVIES.

Oh my God! The virus is spreading and infecting others! Just like in a freakin' zombie movie!

Joe, Where I come from...when motherfuckers are shot...I'm the one who shot them.

IO, we're all waiting for the link that proves ME a lair when I say now that I didn't vote for McCain. It only took me a few seconds to pull up a link to AICN proving you wrong, so all you need to do is post the link and prove me a dirty rotten liar.

Poland never did answer my question about the relatives, though. They don't even have to be HOT, just not gross, you know what I mean? I think he's ignoring me.

Oh, the humanity!

Perm -- you dumb asshole -- SOMEONE ALREADY RESPONDED TO YOU MONTHS AGO, AND YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG! You wanted McCain. If you are so upset about this, you rotted out corpse of a human being. TOO FUCKING BAD. You are as bad as most Republican assholes. So it's not that much of a stretch to me, that you would want to vote for one.

Al El Borish: I live right around the corner from a place where a guy got shot for basically nothing. He was 22, and they just shot him because. That's where I am from. Where you from?

And in the interest of harmony...I'd like to mention that I just fucked Jeff's mom. She said it was amazing. And if she has a baby she will call it "Jeff II: The Even Better One."

IO:

Link please!

Who is Al El Borish referring to?

"All the fucking time. You, scooter, Jeff, and Kamel act as if you are morally superiour to Lex and I."

io -- while you're looking up that link for bp, please show me where (in any thread on any site) i have said anything to disparage (much less suggest 'moral superiority' to) lex...just one will be fine although you say i do it 'all the fucking time'....just one

Still not funny.

Scoot: fuck you. I am not one of your subordinates, that you screw over big assignments. If you cannot remember what you have posted like Perm. Who was totally not for Obama when he first arrived at this blog, then that's on you. Until then catty broad: YOUR EMPLOYEES LOVE YOU AS MUCH AS A RASHY ASS! That's love. That's real love.

Screwed over for an ASSIGNMENT, and disparaging me is okay? Really? Good to know.

This is great.

"SHOW ME THE PROOF! Oh, you have some... well, er.... now you want proof? FUCK YOU!"

Why do I have to provide proof? I remember having this discussion with Perm, and another poster stated he remembered as much months ago. The fact that dipshit McGhee over there thought I stated he voted for Bush, when I never did, and this is why he called me a BABYFUCKER. Well, really, that makes him such a large and floppy cunt. Hustler would not even let his pictures in their magazine.

Scoot also thinks it's fine to be a catty broad online, and disparage me. IT'S NOT FINE, but she's a catty broad. Who most likely has a large pair of yenta shades. I at least hope she rocks a large pair of yenta shades, that would be shiny.

come on peeps, never mind all that

in the immortal words of monty python, 'and now, for something completely different'. the funniest joke in the world might do the trick: (after about 14 seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpjk_MaCGM

Okay, let's imagine these threads about Watchmen that have degenerated into shouting matches are Lola from Run, Lola, Run. Lola has just achieved epic fail and got shot the fuck up. We're rewinding, we're going back to the point where she dropped the damn phone. Can we do this the right way now without everyone sticking their cock on the keyboard with the caps lock on and posting the result? Because if not, all we're gonna' do is get Lola killed again, and Franka Potente is too damn hot to be brutally killed like this over and over.

I cannot fucking wait for this weekend to over with...

"Why do I have to provide proof?"

Because otherwise you're a liar. Remember, THAT'S when I said how would you like it if I said you fuck babies and offered no proof? You obviously didn't because you still remember me saying it, don't you?

So, I never said you DO fuck babies. I just said you wouldn't like to be accused of it. Oh wait, let me put this in words IO understands.

YOU LIED YOU CUNT FUCKER!

Regarding Don Murphy's question about the group being called "Watchmen" in the movie...

It's a change that bothered a lot of fans when it was first heard in the trailer, but I think at this point most have accepted that it was a reasonably benign change that would help newbies understand things a little better.

If you try to explain, in the midst of everything else, that yeah, the phrase "Who watches the Watchmen" refers to them even though they aren't actually called the Watchmen, it takes up time that could be better used explaining other parts of the story.

There are still reviewers who came away from the movie thinking the group was officially called "The Masks." So obviously it's STILL unclear to some.

These comic book movies just rile up the youngsters so much I'm just not sure they're a good idea.

HCAT: You could have a point. In my day, we got Batman with Adam West and Burt Ward, and Cesar Romero as The Joker. And when the movie spin-off played in theaters, we had to walk five miles in the snow, back and forth, to see it. And it was uphill both ways. And we liked it.

Joe: the Adam West Batman was before my time but I was around for the first Superman. Back in the olden days when the phone was plugged into the wall and the tv came over the air. And the only way to anonymously call someone a cocksucker was from the window of a passing car.

Or on a note tied to rock tossed through a window. That always worked for me.

"I live right around the corner from a place where a guy got shot for basically nothing. He was 22, and they just shot him because."

I'd heard he muttered the words "mezzo-mezzo" when somebody asked him how he liked Watchmen, and then it was BAM!, down he went.

But seriously IOIOIOI, stop wasting your energy and time here and start concentrating on GETTING THE FUCK OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. That shit can't be good for your health.

"And the only way to anonymously call someone a cocksucker was from the window of a passing car."

Come on now. Those were the days before star 69 and caller ID really came into their own. You could call half the phone book a "cocksucker" without worrying about it.

When one straight male attempts to insult another one by calling him a 'CUNT FUCKER' you know the world just died a little more.

I come from a place where a baby was actually eaten three houses away.

LYT
CAN YOU PLEASE point to someone complaining about the name other than me?

And it has nothing to do with more time usage of the film- it MAKES NO SENSE to call the Watchmen. What do they do, "stare"?

Hallick: If he'd called it a comic book movie, he might have gotten shot and stabbed.

"I come from a place where a baby was actually eaten three houses away."

Okay, now this is turning into a special macabre version of a Hot Blog pissing contest, except the competitors are whipping out their NEIGHBOR'S wangs and putting them up for measurement. Lordy, lordy...

"Hallick: If he'd called it a comic book movie, he might have gotten shot and stabbed."

I think his last words were actually, "Fuck, that was a great popcorn fli-". Even more tragic, he'd only just seen "Taken".

I've had a serial killer over to my house (before I, or anyone else, was aware of his....er, hobbies). Does that count?

There was a time when I was working for the homicide unit in Los Angeles and I strangled a stray cat just to watch it die.

Whoops, I'm sorry. That was something I saw Dutch do on "The Shield" last week. My bad.

I hurt somebody's feelings once.

Weird parallel Hallick, since I live in a town named Farmington.

"I hurt somebody's feelings once."

YOU CUNT FUCKER!

Sorry Joe. JBD said it would make the world die a little more, and I had some weeds in my backyard I didn't feel like getting to myself. Kinda hoped I could target death 'em.

I lived around the corner from an old lady who bumped off her ancient tenants that the handyman then buried in the front yard. Like MOTEL HELL minus the cannibalism.

Funnily enough, after I hurt her feelings, she wouldn't let me fuck her cunt. Or anything else, for that matter.

"Funnily enough, after I hurt her feelings, she wouldn't let me fuck her cunt. Or anything else, for that matter."

That's okay. She probably only had a popcorn cunt anyway...

Don -- AICN talkbacks when the first full trailer came out are full of such complaints...but I don't know if anyone using a real name, such as yourself, was vocal about it.

In the book, it's derived not just from "Who watches the Watchmen" but also from the address JFK was going to give in Dallas: "We are the watchmen on the walls of world freedom," a quote that inspires Ozymandias.

BUT, to the point at hand -- I can see how formally naming them the Watchmen for the movie makes sense to marketing people. Joe Average sees the name Watchmen, wonders "Who are the Watchmen," and probably doesn't want to be told it's a philosophical concept rather than an actual group of heroes.

Agree or not, I get why they did it and it doesn't bother me too much.

Actually, it was more like ambrosia.

"And it has nothing to do with more time usage of the film- it MAKES NO SENSE to call the Watchmen. What do they do, 'stare'?"

No, no, no - then the movie's title would have to be "Staremen", and people only hearing it would think they were in for a three hour epic about guys who like going to the gym.

Anyway, a good strong stare can be powerfully unnerving and an effective means of "telekinesis" (i.e, making objects move away from the starer - e.g, attractive women moving away from creepy men like me).

"Actually, it was more like ambrosia."

How did you hurt her feelings then? You didn't inadvertantly mis-credit the scent to Summer's Eve, did you?

At the sime, we were having an argument. (BTW: This actually is a true story from my wild college days.) She said: "You know, you're a great fuck, but a terrible person." I replied: "Well, that's better than being a great person but a terrible fuck." She asumed I was referring to her. I wasn't -- I was trying to make, you know, a joke -- but Great God Almighty, that dug a very deep hole for me, and I spent a very long time extricating myself from it.

Congratulations, David Poland. Your blog has now officially crossed the line into AICN comments section territory, albeit with a cast of characters utilizing a thesaurus and coming from sad bachelor pads or cubicles instead of their parents' basements.

You don't have to go on some Jeff Wells "Stalinist purge", but would it kill you to exercise some fucking quality control instead of giving temporary bans/warnings and popping up every so often like a referee in a WWF match in a flimsy attempt to maintain order?

Identify the people that are lowering the quality of discourse, hijacking topics, etc., and kick them the fuck out! It's not that hard. It won't make your ethics questionable.

Or do you actually get a kick out of all this infantile screaming bullshit?

"I was trying to make, you know, a joke -- but Great God Almighty, that dug a very deep hole for me, and I spent a very long time extricating myself from it."

I've been in THAT hole! While you were there, you may have seen one of my torn off fingernails somewhere in the side where I was trying to claw my way out (you don't even get a basket with lotion in it before somebody gives you the hose again in that hole, sheesh...).

I never post, but I'm a long-time/daily reader, dating all the way back to the old site in the 1990s. ("She has creases in her face that Evel Knievel wouldn't try to jump." -- Poland on Madonna in Next Best Thing -- probably my all-time favorite one-liner from the site.) Anyway I am surfacing for the purpose of mentioning that the deteriorating quality of discourse on the site is about to drive me away. I don't mind the ad hominen attacks; it's more the trite, banal form in which they increasingly appear. "...crawl in the hole, suck on your 'coon dick, and fuck you very much"... this is emblematic of the type of comment that appears with increasing frequency and is undermining the basic viability of the site.

So on behalf of the silent majority, minority, whatever we are, I submit that a little site policing might be necessary, if unfortunate, as your readership otherwise stands to erode.

lazarus beat me to it.

Laz: you have to get thrown the fuck out as well. You stated one of the more heinous sentiments ever shared on the blog, and I would have permabanned your ass. If this were my blog. You wished DEATH ON A MAN for a BLOG POST, AND YOU ARE CALLING PEOPLE OUT? ARE YE MAD?

Longshanks: bollocks. We had no problems all week. Until those two decided to get snippy with me. Go read Lex' reply. He summed it up best.

What we got here are four people who have made themselves the law, and the outlaw determined to take them down. I am all about being civil, falling in line, and not causing problems.

It just seems like David Poland prefers to attack me, have other posters attack me, and let things go on as they have. It's time for a change. If he wants to ban. I could careless. He's attacked me all fucking week. It's not like I would not see it coming, but I should not be alone. If the bans were to come.

I hate this crap... but given that I considered the move yesterday, the ongoing behavior - and the inability of some to keep from responding to it - closes the deal.

IO/IHeart is on suspension from commenting for 48 hours. If he comes in under another name, I guess I will have to take more severe action. Since his e-mails for TypePad appear to be fake, this is his public notice of why those accounts will now be blocked. IO, please write me by e-mail if you wish to discuss.