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Even if her non-porn career didn't get far, it did get her as far as one of the first great Cronenberg films, Rabid, in which she is quite good.

(Not sure what Paris Hilton has to do with anything - she was reasonably famous before her sex tape and isn't exactly mired in the porn world.)

The only porn star I really admire is Nina Hartley, a self-described feminist and sex educator. but yes, this is sad. RIP

Paris Hilton > Obama.

That was a cheap shot and DP knows it. Obviously she is not remotely a "porn actress," any more than, say, Colin Farrell or Fred Durst or Dustin Diamond can be considered a "porn star" for having endured a sex tape scandal. Even if DP is of the notion that she was somehow complicit in its release (given her prominent family, this is an idiotic conspiracy theory, but whatever), she was established as a model and mainstream actress well before. So the Farrell/Durst question holds water.

But again, it was a cheap shot. DP's recent shit has been so dismissive/testy, I'm almost wondering if he's considering like a career change or something.

But Rabid owns and Chambers seemed pretty cool.

LexG is correct. She was the 'star' in such mainstream fare as "girl lying on a beach' in WISHMAN, an extra in WONDERLAND and LA KNIGHTS and a walk on in JO. The 30 credits she got 'after' the sex scandal were obviously due to her powerful performances in the prior 3-4 films.

I don't understand DPs line of thought. Chambers was sexy to DP only when he saw her in soft skinemax material and he 'imagined' all of her earlier penetrative work?

There is no 'idea' of Chambers being sexy. She was the quintessential soap selling girl next door who happened to also love fucking on camera. That was what was sexy. The notion that someone found the idea of her being 'sexy' without any association to her X-rated world is hard to fathom. What else could someone base their feelings on?

Chambers wasn't 'Marilyn Chambers' without having swung into 10" of Johnny Keyes.

Repeatedly.

Hilton was absolutely complicit in the release of her tape in the sense that she was paid for it. Porn can't be commercially available without releases. The government goes to check your files you need documentation of age and all that. What was probably pitched was she can get paid and they release this officially or she can not get paid and it'll get dropped on the net for free. I'm sure she chose to get paid. If she wasn't complicit where are the lawsuits, multi-million dollar settlements etc? They don't exist.

RIP Ms. Chambers. We'll always have Cinemax.

Waiting for Cronenberg's eulogy...

And waiting....

LOL, I can just see Poland watching all those Chambers Skinemax programs back in the 90s, gnashing his teeth at the implants while grabbing for the kleenex.

What niche does that fall into?

Wouldn't pornography be the one genre of film that couldn't be described in any way shape or form as "niche"? Although there are subsections of porn that very well can.

I have no idea who this woman is. Literally none. I haven't seen Rabid, but looking over her filmography at IMDb it would be the only movie I'd have any interest in seeing at all (excluding The Owl and the Pussycat, in which she appears to have nothing more than a cameo?) And considering the type of porn she makes...

Why would you Kami - a 20yr old whose first cinematic experience was probably yearning after Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club know anything about Marilyn Chambers? There is no reason on Gods Green Earth that you should know who she is, it's just a given. Absolutely no need to explain my little koala humper.

I sometimes feel a bit out of place around here when people start RIP-ing people I feel like I should know and I've seen this all over the internet today and then I found out she's a freakin' porn star? It was very very odd, I must say.

Oh, and I'm a bit older than 20 thank you very much.

I wonder if she ever did DP?
DP is so popular in the film industry today

Answer to the inevitable question... "because I felt like it."

I really don't know what the newest trends in porn are - aside from what Barbato & Fenton put out there - but they are usually years ahead of the mainstream business.

But what I know from the 90s is that porn actually went to a niche marketing system years ago, well before it really hit the mainstream film business. Porn got the benefit and the downside of "the long tail" went it went to all-video and the number of films being made multiplied massively. The bottom dropped out of a market that sold large numbers of individual titles as each actress, each act of sex. each next step (as in first anal, first dp, etc) became available as standalone product. In other words, if you were only into this girl or that girl or blondes or Hispanic girls or whatever, performing a specific sex act, perhaps for the first time - "firsts" became a big marketing tool over the last decade - you could acquire not only one dvd with that content, but most likely, an entire library of select clips.

As in the mainstream movie business, a 4-quadrant porn star, like Jenna Jameson, breaks these rules, even though her career of films has also been spliced into many "new" build outs from old product as well.

The advantage for porn over mainstream movies in the niche universe is the comfort the industry had spending a lot less per film and making a lot more movies for these niches. The MSFI is facing a smaller overall market for each individual film, much like porn did. But as amusing as it might be to argue the point, you can't really replace Duplicity with a hand-held camera watching Roberts & Owen improvising. What studios can make are Report & Observes for $25 million instead of chasing a 4-quadrant audience with something like Yes Man at $80 million.

But at the risk of starting this absurd "niche doesn't exist" conversation again, O&R is a niche film... hard-R, trying-to-be edgy black comedy - which WB tried to sell as a wider interest film. As an niche film, they were allowed by the talent to make it at a price... as in, Seth Rogen did it cheap. Two years ago, O&R would have either been made at WIP as big studio bait to keep Rogen on that lot or it would have gone over to Paramount Vantage, where it would be parented by Gary Sanchez. That is one of the reasons why the Dependents were created... to rationalize lower budgets for passion projects. Now the big studios are taking on those "difficult" films again.

Anyway... porn was niche before anyone else. And that business seems to have re-stabilized around that concept of marketing and sales.

P.S. I stopped watching anything like skinemax when I started seeing people I knew taking off their shirts and simulating sex... seems like it would be amusing... wasn't.

Suddenly, my wanting to remember the passing of another 70's pop culture icon, Mark "The Bird" Fidrych, seems even more trivial. In both cases I was too young to understand how good their work may've been.

Now I understand Jenna Jameson being a crossover name but I'm not quite sure I know what makes someone a 4-quadrant porn star?

Obviously, she makes porn that you, your children, and Grandma can all watch together.

"Now I understand Jenna Jameson being a crossover name but I'm not quite sure I know what makes someone a 4-quadrant porn star?"

I think it means she does anal, interracial, bisexual - and midgets.

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