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April 03, 2009
Wolverine Lives
The Wolverine leak story is pretty much over.
Fox has pretty much done all of the internet containment there is to be done and the geeks who are reviewing are, I guess, mixed negative overall. But this is no Hulk or Batman & Robin, where the majority buzz - from the effects leak in the first case and test screening reviews in the latter - was vicious.
But Fox now faces a different challenge than we have seen in the past... Mainstream Bloggers hanging onto a story like this well beyond its expiration date because they sense heat and because there is so little else out there to write about in the boring spring. Yesterday it was a 2-day-old EXCLUSIVE in EW.com with Tom Rothman telling the magazine what Fox had been happy to put him or others on the phone to say on Tuesday night or Wednesday. Today, NY Mag's Culture Vulture is living up to its name with "15 Reasons Not To Download Wolverine," an excuse to backdoor a somewhat detailed review of the leak while pretending not to be breaking protocol or the law.
I am not so much wagging my finger at these choices as noting the tonal shift and realizing that another month of geek talkbacks is not the challenge for Fox at this point... it's getting people to shut up about the incident until it is rehashed endlessly on opening week.
Posted by dpoland at April 3, 2009 09:03 AM
Comments
I just checked and if the leak is "contained" then the (around) 4500 available bit torrent downloads I just saw that say "X-Men.Origins.Wolverine.WORKPRiNT" must be for something else :-/
Posted by: don lewis (was PetalumaFilms)
at April 3, 2009 09:34 AM
You (DP) almost make it sound like we should be hoping and rooting for the story to die down and the marketing team's damage control to work. I hope exactly the opposite.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at April 3, 2009 09:52 AM
you're so wrong about this it's ridiculous. the fact that you're writing continued commentary on it shows that obviously it's not dead. this is bad, bad news. and of course you'll never admit that you pulled the notion that movie bootlegs are predominantly the domain of "urban blacks and hispanics" completely out of your ass. that's the kind of crap i expect to hear from jeffrey wells if i bothered reading him.
Posted by: drturing
at April 3, 2009 09:57 AM
Why do you "hope exactly the opposite," Jeff?
Posted by: gradystiles
at April 3, 2009 10:12 AM
More people aware of bad movie = fewer people seeing bad movie.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at April 3, 2009 10:25 AM
I know I might sound like I'm lying, but I'm not. I was gonna download the leak because I thought it would be interesting to compare the workprint to the finished film. When I tried to download it, the torrent stopped at 90% and wouldn't work when I tried to open the incomplete file. So as far as getting the workprint off of torrent sites is concerned, I'm sure private trackers still have it available, but the average person won't be able to get it.
However, I do know that the work print is floating around my University campus hub, and I plan to get it off there at some point next week. At this point, I download a lot of movies simply because I can't afford to pay for them, so I don't feel to bad by doing this, especially since I plan to pay to see it in a theatre anyways. Judge me if you want. I don't care.
Posted by: a_loco
at April 3, 2009 10:25 AM
Maybe it's not actually a bad movie, Jeff. Maybe it's just a few fanboy jerk-offs saying it's bad because that's the "cool" thing to do.
Have you seen it?
Posted by: gradystiles
at April 3, 2009 10:54 AM
No, I haven't, I don't download stuff. So that's fair of you to say.
That said, all evidence points to it indeed being bad. And I trust the combined opinions of hundreds of people more than I trust the concerted efforts of the studio marketing blitz.
Posted by: jeffmcm
at April 3, 2009 11:01 AM
I eat muffins in the store while shopping simply because I dont want to pay for them. I also try to steal mulch from Home Depot. I have also been thinking of scooting the stroller close to the candy in the check out aisle and pretend not to notice when the infant grabs a pepperment patty.
Thanks, I feel better.
Posted by: hcat
at April 3, 2009 11:35 AM
that made more sense when I was typing it under a-loco's confession.
Posted by: hcat
at April 3, 2009 11:37 AM
Wow, that idiot Roger Friedman has actually reviewed the workprint. And he works for Fox News!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512139,00.html
Shouldn't he get fired for this?
Posted by: Goulet
at April 3, 2009 01:53 PM
Friedman's "review" is to off-set the bad WOM and an attempt to bang the piracy drum a little louder.
What he wrote about flawless downloads in seconds is bullshit, unless he's pulling them within a Newscorp building on a T1.
They better announce a culprit or I'm going IO-conspiratorial and claim Rothman had this done so he can blame the internets if it sinks or take credit for the re-shoots if the theatrical is deemed a marked improvement.
Posted by: Martin S
at April 3, 2009 03:09 PM
There is a big audience for this film that doesn't care/doesn't know what a bunch of nerdy comic book lovers think about a shorter, incomplete version of this film with unfinished FX. The effect of this leak on the opening weekend will be minimal. The mainstream chatter about the film is that it leaked. Period. Big deal. Most people aren't going to dig deeper to find out what bloggers think or download it for themselves (they won't be bothered to hunt for it or learn how bittorrent works). Poland is right that the story is dead. It's just unfortunate that it's going to be lede for any reviews in a few weeks.
Posted by: montrealkid
at April 3, 2009 03:21 PM
i watched it again. didn't seem so bad the second time. Will.I.Am is still a black hole of talent. Every time he's on screen i thought "aren't there real actors they could have hired?"
Some of the action is awkwardly staged, and i realize it's unfinished, but a lot of the shots have that television feel, like youre watching an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. All the scope of the movie is relegated to greenscreen/backlot style staging that never feels like youre in the real world. I had the same complaint about Watchmen.
Posted by: anghus
at April 3, 2009 05:39 PM
"At this point, I download a lot of movies simply because I can't afford to pay for them, so I don't feel to bad by doing this, especially since I plan to pay to see it in a theatre anyways. Judge me if you want. I don't care."
I can just see Poland now, planning the next revival of "Les Miserables", with James Gandolfini as a_loco as Jean Valjean, and Marcia Gay Harden as hcat as Inspector Javert:
"If there's another way to go
I missed it twenty long hours ago
My dorm was a source that was better than Fox Co.
They gave me a torrent and enabled a_loco
How they blamed me and scoffed at my chintz
Just for stealing a WOLVIE WORKPRINT...'
Posted by: Hallick
at April 3, 2009 07:07 PM
I'm sorry, that was awful.
Posted by: Hallick
at April 3, 2009 07:37 PM
Hallick, I'm not gonna lie. I'm kinda high right now and that post made me rofl.
Posted by: a_loco
at April 3, 2009 09:42 PM
"There is a big audience for this film that doesn't care/doesn't know what a bunch of nerdy comic book lovers think about a shorter, incomplete version of this film with unfinished FX."
Yeah. But weren't they all in "Be Kind, Rewind"?
Posted by: Hallick
at April 4, 2009 12:56 AM
This story isn't going away, at least not until opening weekend when the real fall out will be seen.
Martin S -
The other day, I wrote, half-jokingly, in my blog and elsewhere that Fox might have leaked it as a form of insurance fraud (ie - the film leaks, the film tanks, they claim 3rd party criminal actions for said flop, they can cash in insurance policy). In the last few days, I've gotten several emails from former Fox employees who tell tales of Fox intentionally leaking stuff and then pretending that wasn't official, or blaming lackeys for leaking stuff that 'untouchables' (like, say, the people who make action figures) actually were responsible for.
Obviously I have only their word on this, and I have neither the time nor the talent to play Woodard and Bernstein. But let's just say I wouldn't be surprised if Bruno Hoffman and/or Sacco and Vanzetti are arrested for the leak in a few days.
Posted by: Scott Mendelson
at April 4, 2009 07:20 AM
Martin S., Remember you wrote:
Friedman's "review" is to off-set the bad WOM and an attempt to bang the piracy drum a little louder.
What he wrote about flawless downloads in seconds is bullshit, unless he's pulling them within a Newscorp building on a T1.
They better announce a culprit or I'm going IO-conspiratorial and claim Rothman had this done so he can blame the internets if it sinks or take credit for the re-shoots if the theatrical is deemed a marked improvement.
You inspired me to defend Roger Friedman on First Amendment grounds. Maybe what Fox means by "internal matter" is that it may have been viewed in a Newscorp bldg on a T1, and he covered those tracks by saying it was better than leaving the house in the rain. So what if he's petty and mean, do you want to join me? I wrote:
I have no skin in the game; don't care one way or the other, but I thought Friedman's post was satirical because he claimed to watch it streaming as opposed to downloaded, not having the time or drive space, he said. Where does one get this kind of internet connection? The situation at least deserves a First Amendment right to free speech examination, lest we start taking ourselves too seriously and live to
regret it. Yeah, I'm being dramatic, but no one's taking it up.
Posted by: T. Holly
at April 5, 2009 09:08 PM
That was funny Hallick and though I have the utmost respect for Marcia Gay Hardin (her debut in Millers Crossing is one of my favorite perfs, I was shocked when she gave such a warm performance in Late for Dinner one year later), you've got the gender wrong. I would be closer to Jesse Bradford with some lifts in his shoes.
Posted by: hcat
at April 6, 2009 05:43 AM
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