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August 05, 2009

GI Joe & Its Perpe-Traitors Must DIE!!!!!!

I am a fan of S.T. Vanairsdale (even if the spelling of his name seems to change, confusing me endlessly). He is one of the younger writers who I feel can and will be legendarily great through a long career. But Stu has a tendency to fall into the trap of being the definition of the arrogant critic that is exactly what people talk about when they discuss (and overstate) the "out of touch critic" who can't think like a a "real" person.

Today's navel gaze - a place that I have gazed at plenty, including on this same subject - is called, "Why You Should Care About the G.I. Joe Culture War."

Oy.

Culture war? Really, Stu?

On some level, I roll my eyes with amazement just from looking at where this screed appears...

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(Here is the page at full size if you want a better look)

So between the gay Sherlock, Paula Abdul, and the KY jelly, there is Stu in his full critic.

"So why should you care? It’s just G.I. Joe, right? A popcorn movie for kids, a big commercial for Hasbro? Well, yes. It’s also a milestone of calculated distrust — in viewers and critics alike — implying that bad movies are acceptable. As though actively endorsing and perpetuating some red-state/blue-state cultural apartheid for the sake of a $175 million piece-of-shit action movie is perfectly fine. As though it’s too difficult to make something halfway watchable for that same price or less, or at least something Paramount doesn’t have to fight a two-front culture war just to salvage for opening weekend. As though something like The Hurt Locker, for example, is too good for the very people the studio stoops to conquer with a movie even its own executives can’t legitimately defend.

As though it’s all right we’ve come to this. Pathetic."

Oh, grow up, Stu.

"Culture War?" "Calculated distrust?" "Implying that bad movies are acceptable?" "Red-state/blue-state cultural apartheid?" "Two-front culture war just to salvage for opening weekend"

Really?

I'm not just going to pat you on the head and smile like the patronizing ass that I can sometimes be, Stu. I take you seriously. I feel your pain. And I wonder how your gentle spirit can survive this all too cruel earth with its gravity and yellow sun.

If you want to rage against the hypocrisy of The Hollywood System, because GI Joe is not more guilty than the screened Transformers 2 or Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince or Star Trek or The Proposal or The Hangover or, as per your article, the distribution pattern for The Hurt Locker. It's business, man. Art, when it happens, is the happy side benefit.

I don't take Rob Moore's career-embarrassment-level quote seriously at all. It's a poorly worded, ridiculous excuse for a choice he should be standing up for fearlessly, as in, "We made a movie for kids and families and while we respect critical coverage of many of our films, this is one we did not make for critics and no good can come, for the film's grosses or the enjoyment of our core audience, from our seeking out their reviews."

You're all over this like Fox News micro-analyzing what beer Obama drank at The Beer Summit.

Critics did not pay for GI Joe to be made. Critics have no real stake in the success or failure of GI Joe. The notion of this film as a symbol of anything more than a studio trying to use the tools at their disposal and making themselves and the writers who got sucked into this scam look like bullshit artists... even if they are not. And who really cares about this? Critics. No one else has any reason to care.

And frankly, when I see your rage being exhibited when real damage is done... when misleading news stories are printed... when gossip is treated like news... when your website doesn't take ads that pretend to be content... then we can start talking about The Evil Of The Studio System Making And Selling GI F-ing Joe.

And before I go, may I point out that these folks at Paramount who are trying so hard to make Shinola out of shit are fighting for their jobs... not unlike nearly every serious-minded movie writer I know, working for sites and even old media that is desperately fighting for audience share and the hope of ad buys that might come with them. They want to work on good movies as much as you want to see them. But business is business. And I only call out the Ky Jelly jokes when you start banging your walking stick on the side of the mountain trying to get the Israelites from worshiping the golden calf as you bring down the ten commandments.

If we can't accept that shit movies are going to be the norm, how can we waste our lives covering movie studios? It's not going to change much. There are bright moments here and there. They keep most of us from going into insurance sales. But I am always stunned (and should just be shockedshocked) when something like this no screening silliness becomes a bonfire onto which my compatriots feel compelled to throw The Evil Studio Movies like we are in unnamed-movie-to-avoid-spoilers.

I do think the world of you, Stu/ST. And no one is more prone to being holier than they than I am. But it's GI Joe, not even Joe The Plumber. In 31 hours, the movie will screen for everyone. And life will go on.

Try thinking about what you might do if you were Paramount. How would you handle a movie that you knew was likely to get beat up by all but a core group of critics? (Ironically, it might do better after all this drama as critics become overly generous in response to expectations lowered to sticky floor levels.) It's not so easy when it's your job to come up with an answer and not just throw up your hands and say, "Stu and David is going to hate this! Let's just dump it!"

My sense is still the same as yesterday... that why you are really angry is that you know they are going to get away with it.

Meanwhile, I wish you were LA based so we could make some beautiful critical video together. Ebony and Ivory and all that.

Posted by dpoland at August 5, 2009 03:53 PM

Comments

The last paragraph that you quote does seem over the top (albeit in what seems like a deliberately exaggerated style), but the rest of the piece reads reasonably.

Plus I doubt he has much say in what ads the site takes.

Posted by: LYT [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 05:36 PM

Dave, why are you defending studio cynicism? When did you become that guy?

Posted by: Crow T Robot [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 05:45 PM

Just for the sake of discussion, let me spin a couple of not-improbable scenarios.

First, let’s assume “Movie X” is being released by Studio Z, and Studio Z has announced it will not screen “Movie X” for critics, and will bar all critics from any and all “opinion-maker” screenings. I am living here in Houston – where I am known by local publicists, and therefore could not very well sneak into an “opinion-maker” screening of “Movie X” undetected – when I get a call from a friend in Dallas. Or New Orleans. Or Austin. Or San Antonio. He or she has a ticket to a radio-sponsored screening on, say, a Tuesday evening. Maybe he picked it up at a music store. Or she got it by mailing a coupon to the local newspaper. Or, hey, maybe he or she advertised on Craigslist, offering to pay $50 to anyone who could fork over a pass. So I drive to the city in question, where I am not known to the local studio reps, and see “Movie X” with my friend. And then I write a review of the film, and send it to Variety, which posts it on line…. oh, let’s say Wednesday afternoon, before the Friday opening. Studio Z squawks – but, really, since there was no “review date” set for critics, because they didn’t screen the film for critics, what can they honestly complain about?

Now let’s assume I’m not Joe Leydon of Variety. Let’s say I’m Michael Patrick of the American Press newswire. I live in a major city on the East Coast – a city where “Movie X” will be screened at 12 midnight Thursday/Friday before its official Friday opening. All the papers across the USA that subscribe to American Press have been tipped off that Michael Patrick will file a review of “Movie X” at around 4 am EST. Or 1 am PST. Too late for most papers to run it in their Entertainment pages – though, presumably, a few West Coast papers could run the review on Page 2A if “Movie X” is as hyped as, say, “G.I. Joe.” But all the papers could have the review on their websites as early as… well, 4:30 am. On opening day.

Would such things happen every single time a studio released a movie without screening it for critics? Probably not. But the next time there is a “G.I. Joe” or something else similarly hyped? Well, it would appear the gauntlet has been tossed down. And, trust me, while you may be able to push around film critics, there are editors and other decision-makers at print outlets who don’t take being pushed very lightly. Indeed, it’s been my experience that some editors will decide at the last minute, at great expense, to send a film critic someplace where they can see, and quickly write about, a highly publicized and/or very controversial movie. Because there are times when a movie stops being a movie, and becomes a news item. And there are times when that happens because a studio has tried to hide that movie from the press.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 06:22 PM

Crow... if that's what you think I am, I have always been that guy.

Like homosexuality, studios are born cynical... it is not a choice they make based on moods or desire.

I think it is the height of cynicism to think this is a huge deal. It is the arrogance that we all engage in sometimes, that we have a right... that we are the guardians, keeping the multiplex safe for the innocent public. It's bullshit.

You know when I grew up on this a bit? When Charlie's Angels: Full Frontal screened and I literally felt that this was a key moment for cinema. If that movie was a commercial success, others would adapt McG's crap herky-jerky, speed cut style and movies would be worse for it. A critic I admire and like a lot personally, Joe Morgenstern, looked me in the bulging eyeballs and said, "Well, it's not the end of the world."

I kept screaming about it... in print... on radio... and Joe wrote about it... "It's not the end of the world."

And he was right. The movie was horrid. Audiences showed up for opening weekend. And they they stopped coming. And later, Amy Pascal had to acknowledge that it was a movie she regretted. Yay.

Ironically, studios stopped not-screening in LA and NY because of the kind of attacks now being launched at GI Joe. As the employer of critics who work outside of these two cities, I often have to deal with their regional embargoes - in Chicago... in Seattle - because it is so much worse for them than it is here. They are threatened with banning all the time.

But you know... the problem here is not Friday reviews by traditional media. The problem is that studios have lost control of the embargo system and the ONLY impact critics can have on GI Joe is a negative one... and only if there is a 80%+ pile-on... and if the critics are buzzing - not necessarily officially reviewing - for a week or two before the release. And that now happens. People want to state their opinion, plenty of newspapers and blogs are out there, and there can be a pile-on for weeks before a movie is seen. So, they occasionally figure, why bother?

And really, why do we in the media care? Because we were told, "no."

And who says the media is right about everything? There are many good movies that I have felt were killed by groupthink dislike or neglect by media and there are many shit movies that have been given a pass by the media. How many outlets do YOU think are protecting you from those bad, bad movie studios?

It gets blurry, absolutely. Shit movies are not good for the soul. But the marketing of shit movies is not a personal attack on film critics. It is not a cultural assault on the world.

There are more terrific movies that WILL NOT BE RELEASED IN AMERICA every year than movies that don't get screened for critics. How about a little noise for them, my cynically self-involved critical brethren? Why is it that the hysteria is reserved for when we are told, "no," causing us to act like 6-year-olds?

And Joe - One of the fears is - without studios not screening - is that we will have a dozen critics reviewing everything for every major outlet in the country soon. Tribune Company has something like 5 critics for 12 papers... and wants to cut more of them.

But WAHHHHHH... we didn't get to see GI Joe early... cue the sky falling.

Cynic that.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 06:46 PM

"And Joe - One of the fears is - without studios not screening - is that we will have a dozen critics reviewing everything for every major outlet in the country soon. Tribune Company has something like 5 critics for 12 papers... and wants to cut more of them."

David: You don't really expect me to disagree with that, do you? I mean, you do know that you're talking to a fellow who was pushed out of a New Times paper reviewing gig more than a decade ago, right?

But seriously: The studios are playing a game that, long-term, is lose-lose for them. All they're doing is setting up a system in which the few critics who are employed have less and less time to turn around reviews in a timely manner. And as I've said many times before, here and elsewhere, you do know the easiest type of review to write, don't you? Let me give you a clue: Can you say "scorched earth"?

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 07:00 PM

And BTW: I think what Crow was getting at -- and, Crow, if I'm being presumptuous here, I sincerely apologize, and please correct me -- is that you seem to be coming down, with ever increasing frequency, on the side of the studios because of your concern for employees who might lose their jobs if this movie tanks, or that movie goes over budget. Such sympathy is admirable, to a certain degree. But I think it raises legitimate questions about which side you're on. For some of us, there is a very firmly defined line of demarcation. And it isn't the least bit blurred.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 07:05 PM

The moment Poland started selling his DP/30 interviews to studios so they could tack them on to the special features of the DVD release, he lost all credibility with me as a critic, because he is essentially being paid by studios for his "work" as a journalist.

If that ain't a conflict of interest, I don't know what is.

Posted by: boltbucket [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 09:09 PM

Wow, boltbucket... that was close to being such a Nikki kind of accusation that you may actually be Nikki. You only ever show up to attack me, so it makes reasonable sense. And you use the kind of nonsense - Nikki used to rant on about having ads on the site as an ethical problem... then would mock me and tell me that we didn't have enough ads on the site - that is so her.

And - since I am easily baited - besides that non-issue being completely off-topic, what are you talking about? I've done over 100 DP/30s, not one of them was done for a studio, and only a few have ended up on DVDs, two of them for free as a favor to the indie filmmakers.

Has Ebert lost his critical credibility because he's done commentaries on DVD, along with many other critics of long-standing?

Anyway...

Joe... I agree. But as I wrote, the people who see movies before release are no longer waiting until Friday to start writing about the movies. Feature writers are acting like critics. People are blogging. It's not exactly fair for them either.

If they had the balls to enforce their own embargoes and rules, it would be easier for everyone because then showing the films would be safe until opening day, when they really don't care what anyone says anymore. (But then they wouldn't have as many outlets to play with) It's the weeks of attack that have made the relationship even more tense when a studio is being overly tense... a few times a year for each.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 09:40 PM

David: Sorry, but Boltbucket has a point.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 09:40 PM

What is that point, Joe?

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 09:42 PM

True enough: "A few times a year for each." Again, I don't think Fox was sweating my review of Aliens in the Attic

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 10:06 PM

David: Conflict of interest.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2009 11:02 PM

Give me an example, Joe. And be specific.

I know that libeling me by inference is no big deal to you, but I take offense to it when you can't come up with a single example that comes even close to conflict of interest.

So put up... or shut up. Seriously.

And boltbucket... you don't know what conflict of interest is. Not my fault.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 6, 2009 12:04 AM

Hah! You can run, but you can't hide, from Variety!

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940784.html?categoryid=31&cs=1

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 6, 2009 07:29 AM

And BTW: There are many kinds of conflicts of interest. Getting too close to the people you write about is one fo them.

Posted by: Joe Leydon [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 6, 2009 07:34 AM

Prediction of Gene Shalit's review:

"G.I. JOE? More like G.I. NO!!!"

GOOD JOKE.

Posted by: Cadavra [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 6, 2009 01:03 PM

Just got back from G.I. Joe. It's about half okay, half terrible, which means for me it's in the same range quality-wise as Van Helsing. Channing Tatum is TERRIBLE. Sienna Miller, Byung-Hun Lee, and Quaid are all good. And I never thought I would hate backstory as much as I did here.

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 7, 2009 03:01 AM

Van Helsing was such a disappointment. That was one I had high hopes for...classic monsters, period set film. Oh well.

Posted by: The Big Perm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 7, 2009 06:40 AM

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