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August 27, 2009

Revised Trailer For Shutter Island?

Watching this quickly, I don't see a big difference from the trailer that's been out... EXCEPT for that it is a Paramount embed and neither the embed of their release exclusive or the random versions that have been posted across the web.

Very smart.

I can remember a discussion with someone (who will remained unnamed) at a major studio (which will remain unnamed) about the top section of Apple Trailers. Why wasn't their movie on there? It was a big movie? Answer: They hadn't asked. When they did, it got prime placement... for the cot of an ask. The battle for "first" on the web gets in the way of the studios a bit. Yahoo! Movies and MSN and MySpace and Apple compete and the result is 30 seconds of exclusivity and weeks of bad embeds for the trailer.

Either insist that Apple (and everyone else) run easy embeds of their trailers and insist that everyone uses them or, as here, keep it in-house. Control the content that most defines the movie's opening.

And let the geeks tell you whether this is really a revision or just a change of marketing direction... geeks?


Posted by dpoland at August 27, 2009 01:38 PM

Comments

Apple has the best quality because it uses Quicktime. But you don't embed Quicktimes. You can create a plug-in player, like I do, and you do with the DP/30s.

Posted by: mutinyco [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 02:05 PM

DP please post the AVATAR/DOWNFALL mashup. Without a doubt the funniest spin on that popular viral and even better it nails the cameron cool aid cult to a tee.

Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 02:11 PM

Every lame whine about the material, JBD. Pass.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 02:30 PM

Can somebody translate DP's above post into a complete sentence?

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 02:32 PM

This seems like an identical cut (with the change of release date only). I find it odd that they are even bothering with this much at this point. It's half a year away - give it a rest for a little while.

Posted by: bmcintire [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 02:38 PM

It's basically the same thing. Maybe there's a little less fire. I saw this one before The Goods and G.I. Joe this week, and sensed it was a little different from the first trailer that debuted, except I think it still said October on it. Either way, Par is trying a little too hard. This could be a Sixth Sense type hit with word of mouth. They don't need to force it so hard. People will come to Leo. Don't give 'em a reason not to.

Posted by: The InSneider [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 03:10 PM

The trailer gives away waaay too much.

Posted by: christian [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 03:14 PM

i love loony bin movies almost as much as werewolf flicks

Posted by: leahnz [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 03:15 PM

"Can somebody translate DP's above post into a complete sentence?"

Really?

Sometimes you fully earn IO's nickname for you.

Posted by: storymark [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 03:27 PM

J-Mac, here's your translation:

lame = Jeff Welles
whine = already posted
material = the clip
pass = and I don't read him.

Posted by: Crow T Robot [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 03:28 PM

Does it still give away the twist?

Posted by: NickF [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 04:01 PM

Does mentioning there's a twist give away the twist? Yes.
(And I think the only people watching the trailer who will realize it gives away too much are folks who've read the book, which I'd recommend, by the way.)

Posted by: chris [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 04:50 PM

I have not read the book, and yet I too feel that the trailer gives away too much information. Doesn't help that I've seen the thing in front of almost every single movie this summer. I get it. Leo's like a rat in a maze. I get it.

Posted by: 555 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 04:57 PM

@leah re: looney bin pics. Then being a kiwi you would have liked to have seen Alison Maclean follow through with her remake BEDLAM for Scorsese.

Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 05:13 PM

DP thats never stopped you from posting ancient embeds before. I guess Crows right.

Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 05:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAPyipuT-Jg

He may have spent too much time underwater.

Posted by: IOIOIOI [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 05:29 PM

I don't know chris...if the twist is that it's all in his head and he's not really a detective or something, that seems really obvious from the trailers. And the fact that every other thriller since Sixth Sense has ended in some variation of that.

Posted by: The Big Perm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 06:18 PM

More like Shitter Island from the looks of it!

Posted by: martin [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 07:30 PM

Sorry, Storymark. I don't remember IOI's nickname for me (the last one I can remember is 'that guy who is a douche') but I guess I like people to express themselves in sentences that have both a subject AND a predicate.

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 08:48 PM

(Correction: that should have read 'That guy. Who is a douche'.)

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 08:51 PM

Jeff, I had no idea what the motherfucker tried to imply with that sentence either. So I got your back on this one. Also, really David, that's the worst Chucky impersonation ever.

Posted by: IOIOIOI [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 09:46 PM

JBD: totally, that would've killed. what ever happened to it, anyway? i thought it was 'thunderbirds are go!' and then, pfft

Posted by: leahnz [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 27, 2009 11:52 PM

Both guesses about the twist (BigPerm, Leo) are incorrect. But my point is that the marketing isn't pushing the twist because the marketers, for once, realize it's more fun for audiences not to know there's one coming so they spend the whole movie wondering what it is. I have no idea if the movie will be good (or even faithful to the book), but I'd bet money it'll be more fun if people don't obsess about the twist. Or know about it.

Posted by: chris [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2009 01:52 AM

@Leah. From look of the H2 twitter buzz, it sounds like Rob Zombie's reign of King was a very short one! LOL

Maclean had quite a few feature projects on the boil at one stage. I think she ended up becoming jaded in development hell. Something must have happened after Jesus Son where she decided to shift into the security of free and cable tv. She pops up in those Projections books a lot. She was well connected.

BEDLAM was on the Val Lewton laserdisc box set and I remember thinking that the conceit is so simple yet ingenious it'd be perfect for an update. Then I saw GOTHICA..?!!?

Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2009 02:13 AM

Apple has the best quality because it uses Quicktime.

Quicktime is just a container format, it has no real bearing on quality -- Apple's stuff looks good because it's hi-res H.264. Youtube supports H.264 too but it tops out at 720p :(

Posted by: Bob Violence [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2009 06:48 AM

I'm not sure what your point is, JBD.

Yeah... I do my best to create workarounds. But there is no upside to anyone in that being done. Studios can still give exclusives, if they think there is a real benefit, but embeds that showcase their material in the best way should be the first issue.

With this one, there is both a Paramount branding and a link to the website... neither of one is on other kinds of embeds.

The lines being drawn around content control is the next big issue on the web.

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2009 02:09 PM

DP : a miscommunication. We were talking about two different things. I was talking about the Hitler/Avatar trailer and you were talking about Shutter Island.

Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2009 02:19 PM

Ah...

Posted by: David Poland [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2009 02:38 PM

I was on the same page as JBD (if it matters).

Posted by: jeffmcm [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2009 02:16 AM

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