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August 20, 2009
Super Movie Friends 3
This week, Larry Gross, Kim Morgan, and Luke Y Thompson join me to discuss the summer movies in general and Inglorious Basterds in detail.
Here is a clip of the IB conversation. The entire discussion can be watched here.
ADD - By request (we'll see how popular), a mp3 audio, 20mb version of the episode.
Posted by dpoland at August 20, 2009 05:50 PM
Comments
Kim Morgan is hot.
Posted by: martin
at August 20, 2009 07:34 PM
Smoking Hot. Did any heterosexual male movie enthusiasts even hear what those three other dudes said?!
Posted by: steamfreshmeals
at August 20, 2009 08:23 PM
I'm not trying to sound like LexG, but Kim Morgan= 10,000 boners!
Posted by: Goulet
at August 20, 2009 08:35 PM
Well, I guess you guys will be happy that we are shooting another 30 minutes with her... but not because of her looks... because of her very real and intelligent interest in serious films.
Posted by: David Poland
at August 20, 2009 09:28 PM
Poland, where's my audio feed dammit?
Posted by: Eric
at August 20, 2009 10:01 PM
It was just brought to my attention that on this page:
http://moviecitynews.com/views/smf/smf3.html
...my last name is misspelled.
Any way we can fix that?
Posted by: LYT
at August 20, 2009 10:03 PM
I'm seeing the Basterds in an hour and 45....MIDNIGHT MOVIE!! I haven't done this....ever. And I have to work tomorrow and I have a 2 year old. But you know, I'm really *excited* to see "Inglorious Basterds" which makes me feel good because I still love movies and haven't become cynical about them.
That's not a knock at the Super Movie Friends as I haven't watched it yet and honestly don't know what ANYONE thinks about the movie. It just feels good to be excited for something cinematic. Haven't felt this way since LOTR ended. I still think they should show that each holiday season...one at a time/one per year. I'd go as would millions.
Posted by: don lewis (was PetalumaFilms)
at August 20, 2009 10:17 PM
I agree. I'm giddy to see IB tomorrow.
Posted by: christian
at August 20, 2009 11:15 PM
Sorry Luke... e-mail would have been faster.
Posted by: David Poland
at August 20, 2009 11:27 PM
"Well, I guess you guys will be happy that we are shooting another 30 minutes with her... but not because of her looks... because of her very real and intelligent interest in serious films."
Oh David...you big pearl caster you....
Posted by: Hallick
at August 20, 2009 11:39 PM
Thank you, Larry, you came through at the last possible moment; fuck her, "Why?"
Posted by: T. Holly
at August 20, 2009 11:42 PM
Here is your audio, Eric.
Posted by: David Poland
at August 20, 2009 11:43 PM
No worries, this was fast enough.
Who is "Larry"?
Posted by: LYT
at August 20, 2009 11:47 PM
You weren't too bad Luke, Larry used a Sharpie, you had Crayolas.
Posted by: T. Holly
at August 21, 2009 12:02 AM
Many thanks for the audio version, David. I don't know about anybody else here, but it takes what feels like years for me to load the video of the entire 30 in HD.
Posted by: Hallick
at August 21, 2009 12:29 AM
Ah, Larry Gross. Somehow I thought Larry must be some previous commenter.
I cannot compete with someone who looks great and knows all. All I got is half that equation.
Posted by: LYT
at August 21, 2009 12:55 AM
So, I'm now curious, what kind of metaphorical writing implement did Kim have?
Posted by: LYT
at August 21, 2009 01:00 AM
Glad to hear the Kim will be back for more. Also props to Luke and Larry for defending Michael Bay. I wasn't so sure that Kim was being honest in that absurdist piece on Bay, and now I'm even less sure.
Posted by: martin
at August 21, 2009 05:44 AM
Uh, she ain't that intelligent... she enjoyed Bad Boys 2, the most demonically soulless, profoundly wrongheaded movie of the decade. A movie that could have only been made by a sociopath and only made a success by a morally corrupt culture. A movie that prompted Roger Ebert to declare: "Everyone associated with this should do community service."
Michael Bay is the bringer of the apocalypse. He's the Randall Flagg of directors. And BB2 is his monsterpiece.
I'm glad you gave this little amateur shit about it, Dave.
Posted by: Crow T Robot
at August 21, 2009 11:07 AM
I like these discussions. Primarily because they are very social, but also because you get to see (hear) how quickly people can defend, clarify or redefine their position on a given film.
And while everyone is interesting, what was most interesting was Kim having to ask why was it important that Tarantino has chosen to change historical fact. Especially given one of the themes of the film.
I think that Tarantino chose to do it because (sorry for saying this yet again), he is a thoroughly amoral filmmaker. His characters claim to operate by some moral code, but the only moral code that Tarantino imbues in them is a cinematic code and that code demands everything to be cool. And so long as the violence, misogyny, racism and amorality is cool, then it is acceptable.
Tarantino admires Godard, but for all Godard's anti-capitalists rants, he at least understood the importance of morality.
I found IG to be intermittently funny, and occasionally well plotted, but with the exception of two characters, no one was interesting and the situations were rarely compelling.
I agree with David Poland when he says Tarantino is a better writer then a director. Watching the film (even though it was lit by Robert Richardson), it struck me that (with the exception of a few scenes in Kill Bill), Tarantino has a very dull eye. His compositions are flat and he rarely if ever uses depth of field: almost everything happened on the same plain of action. He racks focus but once (in the bar with the scotch being pored) and then (in the same scene) had two plains of action in the same frame. I am not insisting that he does this sort of stuff all the time, but I think a visual variation would go some way to enlivening what I found to be otherwise long and dull scenes.
Posted by: The Pope
at August 21, 2009 11:33 AM
CHECK OUT LOU FROM CADDYSHACK. That dude rules.
Kim Morgan always has a very interesting take on film and I enjoyed her thoughts in the 10-minute version (haven't gotten to the 30 yet)... but, man, is she *intimidating*. Three of the awesomest dudes in town there in Poland, Luke and LARRY MOTHERFUCKING GROSS (CHERRY GANZ FOR LIFE YEP YEP, ANOTHER is better than the original 48)... and K-MORG just bringing the THUNDER and steamrolling over these guys.
I thought she had more of a Bogey and Bacall give-and-take when she was on with ROEPER (ie, GOD), but here it's one on three, and the fellas go down like MS. 45 just walked into the costume party dressed as a nun. (GOOD REFERENCE.)
Posted by: LexG
at August 24, 2009 03:08 AM
Lex: As I watched this, I couldn't help but think of you sitting there in LYT's place, riveted by Morgan and either rambling incoherently or reduced to a state of tongue-tied catatonia. Or do you think you could've held it together in her presence?
Either way, it would be good TV. Make it happen, Dave!
Posted by: yancyskancy
at August 24, 2009 08:45 AM
Just got a chance to watch this, having seen the movie.
You're wrong on one thing, Dave: this is NOT a particularly Jewish revenge fantasy. It's a *human* revenge fantasy. I mean, there isn't a single element in the movie that identifies the Jews as a unique people group, apart from their persecution by the Nazis. No character even speaks a word of Yiddish! And certainly there's no intimation of religion or any specific, ethically moral consideration about the responsibility of a wrong people.
Considering Shoshanna's dyed hair and the melting-pot that the Basterds themselves represent, I would argue that there are effectively no Jews in the movie. When she says (on the screen, and 'from the grave,'), "This Jew is killing you," "Jew," like "Nazi," is simply the movie's shorthand for, respectively, "good" and "evil."
What this is, is a movie that assumes that we all know how evil Nazis are and would want them dead. I don't think that's particularly Jewish, not at this juncture in 2009... consider this: is the burning alive of an entire theater of people a Jewish response? No.
I would bet Quentin Tarantino has no idea, apart from movies, what it means to be Jewish. Of course, I'm not sure he has any idea of anything apart from movies... for the record, I really liked IB and have a hard time imagining I'll see a better movie this year.
Posted by: Campbell
at August 25, 2009 11:15 AM
(Um, should read "wronged people.")
Posted by: Campbell
at August 25, 2009 11:17 AM
Do you guys know if Kim Morgan listens to like Insane Clown Posse and Bizkit and shit?
That would be cool. YEP.
This video is good but WHY SO SERIOUS?
Just like Anne Thompson a couple weeks back: Hey, you guys WATCH MOVIES FOR A LIVING. TRY MUGGING AND ACTING LIKE A SUPERSTAR. Tell some jokes and be CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARMING. Poland knows how it's done, but as much as some of the rest of you guys rule, you need to BRING THE LAUGHS and BIG-TIME PERSONALITY.
Christ, how come KEN TURAN watches movies all day, every day, but you put him or ANNE THOMPSON in front of a camera and they're packing all the charisma of Mrs Leninger my eight grade English teacher.
These videos need to devolve into a HOT RESORT WITH BRONSON PINCHOT-STYLE FOOD FIGHT AND ORGY.
Posted by: LexG
at August 25, 2009 02:42 PM
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