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August 02, 2009
With Friends Like This...
The mega-conglomerate of incomprehensible importance, Nikki Finke, posted an e-mail today that is worth a look.
Basically, it is an attempt to defend Judd Apatow from Nikki's earlier claim that Universal had begged Judd Apatow to pull 30 minutes from Funny People. Nikki says, and I believe, that it is from "a prominent filmmaker (he asked to 'stay in the shadows')." Clearly someone who knows Apatow well... so the list narrows itself quickly.
It's clearly not a note from a publicist, because very, very few professional publicists would be stupid enough to send a letter like that in an attempt at defending a client. (Let's not even get into the idea that this guy probably didn't want the e-mail published but rather was just looking for a correction from Nikki without realizing that Nikki is never wrong... pretty sure that "in the shadows" doesn't mean "at the center of a guessing game about whether it's Adam McKay or Jake Kasdan or Ben Stiller or Nick Stoller or whomever.")
But the author who came to defend Apatow buries him pretty effectively. I mean, there isn't anyone at Sony or Universal who doesn't know how willing Mr. Apatow now is to swing his big ol' comedy cock around when he wants something. So this is not news to them. But for the rest of the world, it's pretty strong stuff.
"I can 100% assure you: Universal execs never begged or pleaded with Judd to shorten his movie. Not one of them would have had the balls to. They never would have done anything to piss Judd off. "
Yes, he of the massive new contract... that makes him an employee of the studio at great expense... but as a result of which, they are afraid to tell him the truth as they see it. I buy this completely. But it's not much of a defense of our hero (as in, this is why Ron Howard has Brian Grazer... without demeaning Grazer's other skills, his talent at being the hard ass with the studio allows Ron to remain The Nicest Man In Show Business... which I think he really is.)
There was a mini feud on "40 Year Old Virgin" between Judd and [ex-Uni exec] Mary Parent, and everyone learned never to side against or ever really question Judd after that. Trust me.
Is that a Nikki-esque suggestion that Mary Parent and Scott Stuber becoming former Universal execs a few months before The 40-Year-Old Virgin opened (marking Apatow's first hit on his own and only second movie success of his career)? I hope not. But there is the smell of a threat there, no? One I don't buy into at all.
"All questions of length were precluded by two words, "Knocked Up". It was almost as long and it was an out and out comedy. No one would have been brave enough to challenge Judd on this, even in a joking matter. Trust me, Nikki..."
I trust you. Execs are cowards... that is the message, right?
It isn't that Judd is right, is it?
In fact, after this gentleman repeats a couple of more times how execs are afraid of Judd, one starts to wonder whether this note is from someone who dislikes Judd and thinks he is a dangerous ogre who doesn't work well with others.
But then he drops that he had seen the 3:45 version of Funny People, which either means he is an Apatow camp member or the bravest/stupidest executive ever.
I have nothing against Judd Apatow. I think he is very talented and look forward to each of his films, either as producer, writer or director. But this e-mail makes him sound like a pretty nasty piece of work.
Posted by dpoland at August 2, 2009 03:42 PM
Comments
Aren't you always saying that people should read Nikki with a huge grain of salt because people with ulterior motives are always feeding the troll. Yet, you seem to be reporting this as if it's news and even end with it your own statement that you thinks it makes him look like a nasty piece of work. I'm confused. If Finke is so despicable and suspect why does this even rate a mention by you?
Posted by: Krazy Eyes
at August 2, 2009 05:16 PM
I don't think that email makes him sound nasty at all. If it ssid they asked him and he said fuck you, maybe. And so what if had a feud, creative types will always have feuds with executives who look at money money money only and all the time. You wonder why these people didn't just go into insurance or something, except that you don't meet so many hot women selling insurance.
Posted by: The Big Perm
at August 2, 2009 05:18 PM
Agreed. I'm wondering (pure unfounded speculation) if this is a side-swipe attack in the form of a 'defense of friend' letter. It certainly may turn out having the same effect as an out and out attack letter. And if that was the intent, the smartest thing they could do would be to send it to someone like Nikki under the guise of a 'defend the artist' note, knowing full well that she'd print it and that websites like this would endlessly debate it, to say nothing of it getting play in Entertainment Weekly and the like.
Posted by: Scott Mendelson
at August 2, 2009 05:23 PM
Perm, it depends on wear you sell the insurance.
That aside, Apatow may or may not be a piece of work, but, are we really suppsed to take this letter's word for it? Really?
Posted by: IOIOIOI
at August 2, 2009 05:25 PM
Krazy - I find myself walking that line all the time.
Nikki, as a journalist, is only despicable because she runs a lot of one-source information that pretends to be reported news, she hides her sourcing which is often petty and self-interested, and because her off-the-page behavior is often disgusting.
But pretending that she and what she publishes doesn't exist isn't a viable option for me - or any other journalist - either.
When something like this comes up, it is what it is. She is not pretending that it's something else. I don't think she is this kind of liar. She may be misleading readers by saying it's a "prominent filmmaker" to throw people off the scent. But probably not. Not her kind of lie. And sadly, I understand how Nikki lies all too well.
Avoiding writing about it it would be, it seems to me, petty on my part if I feel free to mention her when she does things I consider negative. This seems to be as simple and as complex as what it IS.
But I completely understand what you are questioning, as I question it all the time. Just leave her alone... stay out of it... pretend she doesn't exist... OR slam every bad thing she posts (an every day job). I am somewhere in the middle. I don't know that it is the right call. But I consider it often and keep trying to do what I feel is right.
Posted by: David Poland
at August 2, 2009 05:52 PM
Yeah but you threw your opinion in about it..that the email makes him seem like a nasty piece of work. Which it really doesn't, good filmmakers should fight with studios.
Posted by: The Big Perm
at August 2, 2009 06:02 PM
If I wanted to keep up with Nikki's news, I'd go to DHD.
Posted by: martin
at August 2, 2009 06:13 PM
Virtually no one is well served by complete control... neither filmmaker nor studio, Perm.
Posted by: David Poland
at August 2, 2009 06:30 PM
I think you'd have to have aspergers not to read this as a complete stitch up from an exec. The emailer didn't see the 3.45 cut. They know about it though. The emailer is not a friend of Apatow's. How many veiled digs masquerading as affirmations do you need to convince you?
The whole running time debate on his films is frustrating as the boxoffice and critical kudos will be thrown back in your face if you say 'way too fucking long'. Apatow is so jaded and I bet there's a seething hatred for execs from how they treated him in tv but he's really hurting himself by not getting stronger advice on how to trim the fat. All of his films would really benefit from tightening.
Some may even stand the test of time.
Posted by: Jeffrey Boam's Doctor
at August 2, 2009 06:39 PM
I don't think filmmakers should have COMPLETE control...but they shouldn't kiss ass either. Many of the best movies were made when filmmakers did exactly what they wanted and told the studio to fire them or fuck off...but admittedly, some of the worst were made that way too.
Wow, I can't believe there was a 3:45 cut. But when you do a movie with a lot of plot threads and improv, that can happen.
Posted by: The Big Perm
at August 2, 2009 06:59 PM
Yeah, this letter just reaffirms what most people knows: studios are complete wimps when they are dealing with a "hot commodity". They describe it as "artist friendly" but you could just say "spineless".
They both deserve the fate they get. This movie would still have problems if it were 30 minutes shorter, but it'd probably be better.
Posted by: Hopscotch
at August 2, 2009 06:59 PM
I wonder how many people who have never heard of Nikki get directed to her site thanks to David?
Posted by: Joe Leydon
at August 2, 2009 08:40 PM
David, I love you, but I did not sign up here to read a gossip blog.
Posted by: Sultry
at August 2, 2009 11:17 PM
Joe, I know I'd never heard of her until I came here.
Posted by: KamikazeCamelV2.0
at August 3, 2009 02:52 AM
I think JBD is correct.
Posted by: Lota
at August 3, 2009 09:18 AM
If he did, indeed, refuse to cut the film then good for him. He was wrong. But he failed on his own terms.
The money men won't like that. And as David said the other day guys like Harvey Weinstein know how to salvage things quite well.
A movie like this does need to breath. But not for that long. Maybe he has believed too much of his own press. Maybe he felt the cut was what he wanted. Fine. If you're gonna die, then die on your terms. But you also end up with a shorter leash next time.
I'm with the "movies are too long" crowd now. Not always...some need to be. But not comedies. Not ROTF. G-FORCE was 2.7 hours. Or felt that way.
Everbody flops. The pile on happens. I hate that. I will still watch KNOCKED UP when it's on cable. Learn from it. Move on.
And ALIENS IN THE ATTIC was better than it was treated. Joe Dante could have done better. But it was like a movie I wanted to see when I was 10. Reminded of THE GATE.
Kids movie fatigue is setting in. SHORTS next week. SPY KIDS is wonderful. But whoever scheduled these releases is are all fucking retards. Rob Zombies H2 will feel like a breath of fresh...putrid air.
How wide is PONYO going? Not worried because I won passes from Capone at AICN to a screening in Chicago Thursday. My girls cannot wait. Nor I.
Posted by: CleanSteve
at August 3, 2009 10:45 AM
Damn. One more thing. That HURT LOCKER number hurts me. $15 million total is a travesty. There had to be a better time to open this. The roll out failed. It should reach at least $50-60 million. It is, in it's way, a crowd pleaser. Like THE WRESTLER, and the gross for that in unforgivable.
RE: WRESTLER. Crap DVD. Is there a special edition in the works? Aronofsky needs to do so. THE FOUNTAIN, too. Love that movie but I don't understand jack squat. I'm dumb I suppose.
Posted by: CleanSteve
at August 3, 2009 10:50 AM
Yeah, but the point is that his films have ALWAYS been too long (even the most critically-acclaimed of his productions, "Superbad"). I'd argue that some of the stuff that "should" be cut is often the best stuff but, in any case, the only reason this is getting so much attention this time is that the movie isn't a smash.
Posted by: chris
at August 3, 2009 11:34 AM
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